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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-22-2000MINUTES MAPLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL 7:00 P.M., Monday, May 22, 2000 Council Chambers, Municipal Building Meeting No. 00-10 A. CALL TO ORDER: A regular meeting of the City Council of Maplewood, Minnesota was held in the Council Chambers, Municipal Building, and was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Mayor Cardinal. B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: C. ROLL CALL: Robert Cardinal, Mayor Present Sherry Allenspach, Councilmember Present Kenneth V. Collins, Councilmember Present Marvin C. Koppen, Councilmember Present Julie A. Wasiluk, Councilmember Present D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Councilmember Collins moved to approve the minutes of CounciUManager Workshop (May 8, 2000) as presented. Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all Councilmember Koppen moved to approve the minutes of Meeting No. 00-09 (May 8, 2000) as presented. Seconded by Councilmember Collins Ayes -all E. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Councilmember Allenspach moved to approve the Agenda as amended. M 1. City Council/Parks and Recreation Commission Joint Meeting Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all F. APPOINTMENTS/PRESENTATIONS: 1. HRA Appointment Community Development Director Coleman announced that Beth Ulrich has been appointed to the Housing and Redevelopment Advisory Commission. 2. Resignation and Resolution -Regina Laroche-Theune Councilmember Koppen moved to adopt the following Resolution of Appreciation for Regina Laroche-Theune: RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 059 JOINT RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION WHEREAS, Regina Laroche-Theune has been a member of the Human Relations Commission Board since March 27, 1995 and has served faithfully in that capacity; and WHEREAS, the Human Relations Commission Board has appreciated her experience, insights and good judgement; and WHEREAS, Regina has freely given of her time and energy, without compensation, for the betterment of the City of Maplewood; and WHEREAS, Regina has shown dedication to her duties and has consistently contributed her leadership and effort for the benefit of the City. NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED for and on behalf of the City of Maplewood, Minnesota, and its citizens that Regina Laroche-Theune is hereby extended our gratitude and appreciation for her dedicated service and we wish her continued success in the future. Seconded by Councilmember Allenspach Ayes -all G. CONSENT AGENDA: Councilmember Allenspach moved to approve the Consent Agenda as presented. Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all 1. Approval of Claims Approved the Claims. 2 ACCOUNTS PAYABLE $108,085.69 Checks #8289 thru #8300 dated 5-1 thru 5-5-00 $251,913.50 Checks #49550 thru #49654 dated 5-9-00 $147,767.62 Disbursements via debits to checking account dated 5-2 thru 5-8-00 $2,521.50 Checks #8301 thru #8304 dated 5-9 thru 5-12-00 $112,248.09 Checks #49657 thru #49751 dated 5-16-00 $122,609.23 Disbursements via debits to checking account dated 5-9 thru 5-15-00 $745,145.63 Total Accounts Payable PAYROLL $304,306.83 Payroll Checks and Direct Deposits dated 5-12-00 $24,629.05 Payroll Deduction check #78543 thru #78550 dated 5-12-00 $328,935.88 Total Payroll $1,074,081.51 GRAND TOTAL 2. McKnight Road EVP, Project 98-09 Established a budget of $18,000 for Project 98-09, McKnight Road Emergency Vehicle Pre-emption System (EVP). 3. Brad L. Beatty and William C. Schwartz -Approval of Used Car Lot Approved the application from Brad L. Beatty and William C. Schwartz for a used car lot at 1908 Rice Street. 4. Temporary Gambling -VFW Post 8901 at Ramsey County Fair Adopted the following Resolution, approving temporary gambling for VFW Post 8901 at Ramsey County Fair, July 12 - 16, 2000: 3 RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 060 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TEMPORARY LAWFUL GAMBLING VFW Post 8901 at Ramsey County Fair, Ramsey County Fairgrounds BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED, by the City Council of Maplewood, Minnesota, that the premises permit for temporary lawful gambling is approved for VFW Post 8901, to operate at the Ramsey County Fairgrounds, 2020 White Bear Avenue, Maplewood, Minnesota. FURTHERMORE, that the Maplewood City Council waives any objection to the timeliness of application for said permit as governed by Minnesota Statute • 349.213. FURTHERMORE, that the Maplewood City Council requests that the Gambling Control Division of the Minnesota Department of Gaming approve said permit application as being in compliance with Minnesota Statute • 349.213 and the City allows the Board to issue a permit before 30 days. NOW, THEREFORE, be it further resolved that this Resolution by the City Council of Maplewood, Minnesota, be forwarded to the Gambling Control Division for their approval. 5. Temporary Gambling - St. Paul East Park Lions at Ramsey County Fair Adopted the following Resolution, approving temporary gambling for St. Paul East Park Lions at Ramsey County Fair, July 13 - 16, 2000. RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 061 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TEMPORARY LAWFUL GAMBLING St. Paul East Park Lions Club at Ramsey County Fair, Ramsey County Fairgrounds BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED, by the City Council of Maplewood, Minnesota, that the premises permit for temporary lawful gambling is approved for St. Paul East Park Lions Club, to operate at the Ramsey County Fairgrounds, 2020 White Bear Avenue, Maplewood, Minnesota. FURTHERMORE, that the Maplewood City Council waives any objection to the timeliness of application for said permit as governed by Minnesota Statute • 349.213. FURTHERMORE, that the Maplewood City Council requests that the Gambling Control Division of the Minnesota Department of Gaming approve said permit application as being in compliance with Minnesota Statute • 349.213 and the City allows the Board to issue a permit before 30 days. NOW, THEREFORE, be it further resolved that this Resolution by the City Council of Maplewood, Minnesota, be forwarded to the Gambling Control Division for their approval. 6. Ramsey County Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Agreement Adopted the following Resolution with Ramsey County for community development block grant (CDBG) funds: 4 RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 062 SECOND AMENDMENT TO RAMSEY COUNTY HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY JOINT COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT The Joint Cooperation Agreement between the County of Ramsey and the City of Maplewood (•?~IUNICIPALITY•j commencing August 31, 1991, and the First Amendment to that Agreement, effective July 1, 1997, (collectively •r~GREEMENT•j is further amended as follows: 1. The effective date of this Second Amendment is July 1, 2000. 2. The AGREEMENT is amended by the addition of the following language: A. By executing this AGREEMENT the MUNICIPALITY understands that is: 1. May not apply for grants from appropriations under the Small Cities or State Community Development Block Grant (CDBG program; and 2. May participate in a Home Investment Partnership Act (HOME) Program only through the AUTHORITY. Thus, even if the AUTHORITY does not receive a HOME formula allocation, the MUNICIPALITY cannot form a HOME consortium with other local governments. B. Both the AUTHORITY and MUNICIPALITY are obliged to take all actions necessary to assure compliance with the AUTHORITY•scertification required by section 104(b) of Title I of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, as amended including Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964„ the Fair Housing Act, section 109 of Title I of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, and other applicable laws. The AUTHORITY is prohibited from funding for activities, in or in support of, any cooperating unit of general local government that does not affirmatively further fair housing within its own jurisdiction or that impeded it actions to comply with its fair housing certification, This provision is required because noncompliance by the MUNICIPALITY may constitute noncompliance by the AUTHORITY which can, in turn, provide cause for finding sanctions or other remedial actions by the Department, C. The MUNICIPALITY has adopted and is enforcing: 1. A policy prohibiting the use of excessive force by law enforcement agencies within its jurisdiction against any individuals engaged in non-violent civil rights demonstrations; and 2. A policy of enforcing applicable State and local laws against physically barring entrance to or exitfrom afacility or location which is the subject of such non-violent civil rights demonstrations within jurisdictions. 3. Except as expressly modified herein, the AGREEMENT remains in full force and effect. 7. Acceptance of Grant Funds Adopted the following Resolution, authorizing the Maplewood Police Department to accept and expend a $3,000 grant from Minnesota Join Together, and approved providing a notarized copy of the same to Minnesota Join Together. RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 063 A RESOLUTION OF THE MAPLEWOOD CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE MAPLEWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MINNESOTA JOIN TOGETHER COALITION WHEREAS: The City of Maplewood has long recognized the need to protect its young citizens from the consequences of underage drinking; and, WHEREAS: The City, in partnership with various federal, state and private agencies, consistently works to provide assistance, guidance and information to young persons at risk in the community; and, WHEREAS: The privately funded Minnesota Join Together Coalition, administered by the American Medical Association, has extended to the Maplewood Police Department a grant of $3,000 to be spent exclusively on efforts to reduce underage drinking; therefore, BE IT RESOLVED: That the Maplewood City Council does hereby authorize the Chief of Police, for and on behalf of the Maplewood Police Department and the City of Maplewood, to accept and expend the aforementioned grant for the purposes stated above; and, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That the Maplewood City Council encourages the Maplewood Police Department, working in collaboration with the Minnesota Join Together Coalition, the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, our neighborhood groups and Maplewood residents, to work diligently to reduce the incidence of underage drinking in our community. 8. HRC Annual Report Approved the 1999 Human Relations Commission Annual Report. 9. Disposal of Old Financial Records Adopted the following Resolution so that the appropriate financial records can be destroyed. RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 064 WHEREAS, M.S.A. 138.17 governs the destruction of city records; and WHEREAS, a list of records has been presented to the Council with a request in writing that destruction be approved by the Council; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF MAPLEWOOD, 6 MINNESOTA; 1. That the Finance Director is hereby directed to apply to the Minnesota State Historical Society for an order authorizing destruction of the records as described in the attached list. 2. That upon approval by the State of the attached application, the Finance Director is hereby authorized and directed to destroy the records listed. 10. Transfer to Close Tilsen North Street Project Approved the transfer of $21,244.54 from the General Fund to close Tilsen North Street Project 99-05. 11. Transfer to Close Nine Improvement Project Funds Approved the following interfund transfers and appropriate budget adjustments to close nine improvement funds. From To Fund # Fund # Amount 523 560 $46,285. 31 523 590 22,834. 03 523 598 20,035. 07 523 568 172,321. 78 523 404 259,734. 56 550 404 10,051. 61 553 404 51,903. 74 588 404 15,992. 21 593 404 46,543. 64 599 404 42,726. 45 H. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. 7:00 P.M. (7:08 P.M.) Carver Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Revision (2680 Upper Afton Road) a. Mayor Cardinal convened the meeting for a public hearing. b. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report. a Community Development Director Coleman presented the specifics of the report. d. Commissioner Paul Mueller presented the Planning Commission report. e. Mayor Cardinal opened the public hearing, calling for proponents or opponents. No one was heard. 7 £ Mayor Cardinal closed the public hearing. Councilmember Koppen moved to adopt the following Resolution, amending the conditional use permit for playground and play area changes at Carver Elementary School, 2680 Upper Afton Road. Approval of this permit amendment is based on the findings required by code and subject to the following conditions (additions are underlined and deletions are crossed out): RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 065 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT RESOLUTION WHEREAS, Independent School District No. 622 is requesting that Maplewood approve an amendment to their conditional use permit to allow the following change: To relocate the hard-surfaced outdoor basketball court area and the pea-graveled play area that are behind the building to the front, just west of the existing parking lot. WHEREAS, this permit applies to the property at 2680 Upper Afton Road. The legal description is: Beginning at a point twenty (20) rods west of the Northeast corner of the North Half of the Southeast Quarter (N • of the SE 1/4) of Section One (1), Township twenty eight (28), Range Twenty two (22); thence South forty (40) rods; thence West forty (40) rods; thence North forty (40) rods; thence East forty (40) rods to the point of beginning. (PIN 1-28-22-41-0005) WHEREAS, the history of this conditional use permit amendment is as follows: 1. On May 1, 2000, the planning commission recommended that the city council approve this permit. 2. On May 22, 2000, the city council held a public hearing. The city staff published a notice in the paper and sent notices to the surrounding property owners. The council gave everyone at the hearing a chance to speak and present written statements. The council also considered reports and recommendations of the city staff and planning commission. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the city council approve the above-described conditional use permit amendment based on the building and site plans. The city approves this permit because: 1. The use would be located, designed, maintained, constructed and operated to be in conformity with the city~s comprehensive plan and code of ordinances. 2. The use would not change the existing or planned character of the surrounding area 3. The use would not depreciate property values. 4. The use would not involve any activity, process, materials, equipment or methods of operation that would be dangerous, hazardous, detrimental, disturbing or cause a nuisance to any person or property, because of excessive noise, glare, smoke, dust, odor, fumes, water or air pollution, drainage, water run-off, vibration, general unsightliness, electrical interference or other nuisances. 5. The use would generate only minimal vehicular traffic on local streets and would not create traffic congestion or unsafe access on existing or proposed streets. 6. The use would be served by adequate public facilities and services, including streets, police and fire protection, drainage structures, water and sewer systems, schools and parks. 7. The use would not create excessive additional costs for public facilities or services. 8. The use would maximize the preservation of and incorporate the site's natural and scenic features into the development design. 9. The use would cause minimal adverse environmental effects. 10. The city council may waive any of the above requirements provided the council determines that the balancing of public interest between governmental units would be best served by such a waiver. Approval is subject to the following conditions: 1. All construction shall follow the plans for building the 1995 building expansion stamped January 18, 1995 and the utility, grading and erosion control plans stamped March 9, 1995. The parking lot expansion shall follow the plans stamped August 14, 1998. The proposed storage room addition, folding-door enclosure addition and loading dock platform expansion shall follow the plans stamped February 19, 1999. The proposed play area relocation shall follow the plans date-stamped April 14. 2000, subject to the applicant providing city staff with a proof of parking plan for the site that shows at least 20 additional parking spaces. The director of community development may approve minor changes. 2. The play area relocation *'~~~~ ~°~°~°~~~ ~~~~~°°'° must be started within one year after council approval or the permit amendment shall end. The council may extend this deadline for one year. 3. The city council shall review this permit in one year. The Maplewood City Council adopted this resolution on May 22, 2000. Seconded by Mayor Cardinal Ayes -all 2. 7:00 P.M. (7:16 P.M.) Assessment Hearing - Bartelmy Acres Neighborhood Streets, City Project 99-13 a. Mayor Cardinal convened the meeting for a public hearing. b. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report and presented the specifics of the report. c. City Attorney Kelly explained the procedure for public hearings. 9 d. Mayor Cardinal opened the public hearing, calling for proponents or opponents. The following persons were heard: Raymond Kaeder, 1083 Sterling Street Violet McSchannock, 1011 Bartelmy Lane Lynn Johnson, 1070 Mary Street Robert Johnson, 1060 Mary Street Lorraine Cummings, 1069 Mary Street Kevin and Sarah Johnson, 1076 Mary Street Vern Hogan, 1023 Bartelmy Lane Jen Peterson, 1026 Mary Street e. Mayor Cardinal closed the public hearing. Councilmember Koppen moved to adopt the following Resolution, adopting the assessment roll for Bartelmy Acres Neighborhood Streets. Project 99-13: RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 066 ADOPTION OF ASSESSMENT ROLL WHEREAS, pursuant to proper notice duly given as required by law, the city council has met and heard and passed on all objections to the proposed assessment for the construction of Bartelmy Acres neighborhood Streets as described in the files of the city clerk as Project 99-13, and has amended such proposed assessment as it deems just, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA: 1. Such proposed assessment, as amended, a copy of which is attached hereto and made a part hereof, is hereby accepted and shall constitute the special assessment against the lands named therein, and each tract of land therein included is hereby found to be benefited by the proposed improvement in the amount of the assessment levied against it. 2. Such assessment shall be payable in equal annual installments extending over a period of 15 years, the first of the installments to be payable on or after the first Monday in January 2001, and shall bear interest at the rate of 7.0 percent per annum from the date of the adoption of this assessment resolution. To the first installment shall be added interest on the entire assessment from the date of this resolution until December 31, 2000. To each subsequent installment when due shall be added interest for one year on all unpaid installments. 3. It is hereby declared to be the intention of the council to reimburse itself in the future for the portion of the cost of this improvement paid for from municipal funds by levying additional assessments, on notice and hearing as provided for the assessments herein made, upon any properties abutting on the improvement but not made, upon any properties abutting on the improvement but not herein assessed for the improvement, when changed conditions relating to such properties make such assessment feasible. 10 4. To the extent that this improvement benefits nonabutting properties which maybe served by the improvement when one or more later extensions or improvements are made, but which are not herein assessed, therefore, it is hereby declared to be the intention of the council, as authorized by Minnesota Statutes Section 420.051, to reimburse the city by adding any portion of the cost so paid to the assessments levied for any of such later extension or improvements. 5. The clerk shall forthwith transmit a certified duplicate of this assessment to the county auditor to be extended on the property tax lists of the county, and such assessments shall be collected and paid over in the same manner as other municipal taxes. Seconded by Councilmember Allenspach Ayes -all 3. 7:30 P.M. (7:45 P.M.) Sprint PCS Telecommunications Monopole (2500 Hudson Place) a. Mayor Cardinal convened the meeting for a public hearing. b. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report. a Community Development Director Coleman presented the specifics of the report. d. Commissioner Paul Mueller presented the Planning Commission report. e. Boardmember John LaCasse presented the Community Design Review Board report. f Mayor Cardinal opened the public hearing, calling for proponents or opponents. The following persons were heard: Jean Ashely, 2466 Brookview Drive Am Nguyen, 2455 Brookview Drive Terry Degraw, 2500 Hudson Place Gered Johnson, Sprint PCS Representative Robert Schlentz, 3M Representative g. Mayor Cardinal closed the public hearing. Councilmember Collins moved to table the item until the June 12. 2000 Council Meeting. Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all 4. 7:45 P.M. (8:44 P.M.) Maplewood Fire Station (Clarence Street) Acting City Manager Haider informed the audience that staff has incomplete information at this time and that they will be re-notified if and when the matter goes to a city council for any changes to the new fire station. No action was taken. Councilmember Collins moved to take no action Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all I. AWARD OF BIDS 1. Bartelmy Acres Neighborhood Streets, Project 99-13 a. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report and presented the specifics of the report. b. Mayor Cardinal asked if anyone wished to speak before the Council regarding this matter. No one was heard. Councilmember Allenspach moved to adopt the following Resolution, accepting the bid from Dave Perkins Contracting. Inc. in the amount of $387.516.85 for the Bartelmy Acres Neighborhood Streets. Citj Project 99- 13. Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all J. UNFINISHED BUSINESS 1. Hazelwood Improvements, Project 99-07 -Assessment Objections a. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report and presented the specifics of the report. Councilmember Allenspach moved to take the actions recommended in the staff report (summarized below) for the proposed assessments for Hazelwood Street Improvements. Project 99-07. 1. Take no action to change the proposed assessment for 2460 Hazelwood Street, PIN: 10-29-22-13- 0098. 2. Take no action to change the proposed assessment for 2451 Germain Street, PIN: 10-29-22-13-0086. 3. Take no action to change the proposed assessment for 2555 Hazelwood Street, PIN~s: 10-29-22-21- 0004, -0005, & -0008. 4. Approve disability hardship for the property at 2410 Hazelwood Street, PIN: 10-29-22-13-0051, upon a qualified submittal to the city clerk of the proper disability hardship documentation by the property owner. 5. Approve disability hardship for the property at 2615 Bittersweet Lane, PIN: 10-29-22-11-0028, upon a qualified submittal to the city clerk of the proper disability hardship documentation by the property owner. 12 6. Approve senior citizen deferment for the property at 2566 Hazelwood Street, PIN: 10-29-22-13- 0046, upon a qualified submittal to the city clerk of the proper disability hardship documentation by the property owner. 7. Take no action to change the assessment proposed for 2420 Hazelwood Street, PIN: 10-29-22-13- 0052, due to lack of information on the assessment hearing appeal form. 8. Reduce the assessment for 2467 Hazelwood Street, PIN: 10-29-22-24-0013, by $6450, from 2 x $4000 + 2 x $600 + 1 x $1850 = $11,050.00 to 1 x $4000 + 1 x $600 + 1 X $0 = $4600, with the requirement that a future lot split request be denied until after such time the age and condition of the street would justify an open cut utility trench, as approved by the city engineer. 9. Reduce the assessment for 1522 E. Brooks Avenue, PIN: 10-29-22-24-0012, by $6450, from 2 x $4000 + 2 x $600 + 1 x $1850 = $11,050.00 to 1 x $4000 + 1 x $600 + 1 X $0 = $4600, with the requirement that a future lot split request be denied until after such time the age and condition of the street would justify an open cut utility trench, as approved by the city engineer. 10. Reduce the assessment for 2480 Hazelwood Street, PIN: 10-29-22-13-0097, by $1850, from 2 x $4000 + 7 x $600 + 1 x $1850 = $14,050.00 to 2 x $4000 + 7 x $600 + 1 X $0 = $12,200.00. Seconded by Mayor Cardinal Ayes -all 2. Deer Management a. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report and presented the specifics of the report. Councilmember Koppen moved to adopt the staff recommended deer management program. Seconded by Councilmember Collins Ayes -all K. NEW BUSINESS 1. Transfer of Funds for New Fire Station a. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report. b. Fire Chief Lukin presented the specifics of the report. Councilmember Collins moved to authorize the finance director to transfer of approximately $60,000 from the Gladstone Fire Department Fund to the new station project. Seconded by Councilmember Allenspach Ayes -all 13 2. Budget Appropriation -East County Line Fund a. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report. b. Fire Chief Lukin presented the specifics of the report. Councilmember Koppen moved to approve the purchases for the Maplewood Fire Department as listed in the aeenda report. Seconded by Councilmember Allenspach Ayes -all 3. 2001 - 2005 Capital Improvement Plan (4 Votes) a. Acting City Manager Haider introduced the staff report. b. Finance Director Faust presented the specifics of the report and showed the 2001-2005 C.LP. video. Councilmember Koppen moved to adopt the following Resolution: RESOLUTION 00 - OS - 067 WHEREAS, the 2001-2005 Capital Improvement Plan coordinates the timing and financing of major equipment purchases and construction projects, and WHEREAS, the 2001-2005 C.LP. is a planning tool for City staff and elected officials, and WHEREAS, it is important to follow the construction and financing schedule on pages 1-8 and 1-9 in the C.LP. in order to fully utilize the City~s engineering staff and minimize the need for consultant engineers, and NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the 2001-2005 C.LP. is hereby adopted as a planning document, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, the construction and financing schedule on pages 1-8 and 1-9 in the C.LP. will be followed to the greatest extent possible. Seconded by Councilmember Wasiluk Ayes -all L. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS None M. COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS 1. Mayor Cardinal announced that there will be a joint meeting between the City Council and the Parks 14 and Recreation Commission at the Maplewood Nature Center on June 8, 2000 at 6:00 p.m. N. ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS 1. Fire Chief Lukin gave an update on the New Fire Station O. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Cardinal moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:17 P. M. Seconded by Councilmember Koppen Ayes -all Ken Roberts, Substitute Clerk 15