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MAPLEWOOD COMMUNITY DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
July 14, 1998
6:00 P.M.
City Council Chambers
Maplewood City Hall
1830 East County Road B
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes - June 9, 1998
4. Approval of Agenda
5. Unfinished Business
6. Design Review
a. Joe's Crab Shack, Beam Avenue - Landry's Seafood, Inc.
7. Visitor Presentations
8. Board Presentations
9. Staff Presentations
a. CDRB Representatives Needed for July 27 and August 10 Council Meetings
b. Next CDRB Meeting is June 28
c. Annual Summer Tour- August 17
10. Adjoum
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MAPLEWOOD COMMUNITY DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
830 COUNTY ROAD B EAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
JULY 14, '1998
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Erickson called the meeting to order at 6 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Marvin Erickson Present
Marie Robinson Present
Ananth Shankar Present
Tim Johnson Absent
Matt Ledvina Absent
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 9,1998
Boardmember Shankar moved approval of the minutes of June 9, 1998 as submitted.
Boardmember Robinson seconded.
The motion passed.
IV. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
VI.
Ayes--all
Boardmember Shankar seconded.
The motion passed.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
DESIGN REVIEW
A.
Ayes--all
Joe's Crab Shack, Beam Avenue - Landry's Seafood, Inc.
Gerry Mullins, of Landry's Seafood Restaurants, Inc., was present and told the
boardmembers a little about his company. Mr. Mullins said they refer to their
architecture as Gulf Coast architecture. Mr. Mullins said they typically use almost
entirely reconstituted materials, such as, old wood and old tin roofs.
Boardmember Robinson moved approval of the agenda as submitted.
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Boardmember Erickson asked if there were many design changes made for the
building here. Mr. Mullins said they have gone to a brick wainscot around the bottom
of the building to give it a cleaner look and they have toned down their sign package.
Mr. Mullins asked if the reason for the lot split was for tax purposes. Staff didn't know
the reasons but presumed the applicant wanted to own their own property. Mr.
Mullins said that they had no intention of using the five foot utility easement.
Mr. Mullins said that their site plan shows 99 parking spaces and that the only way
they can meet the city code requirement of 104 parking spaces would be to use some
of the parking spaces in the shopping center.
Staff has recommended that the applicant revise the site plan to provide a parking lot
connection to the Olive Garden parking lot at the southerly end of the site. The
connection would cause the loss of four of the proposed parking spaces, but would
add six and provide traffic flow between the two restaurant sites. The total number of
parking spaces would increase from 99 to 101 and improve the traffic circulation
between the Olive Garden and Joe's Crab Shack.
Boardmember Erickson asked if the applicant had any concerns or problems with
cars going back and forth on the drive between the Olive Garden and their property.
Mr. Mullins said the only problem they had is that they didn't want it to become a
shortcut for cars to go through to get to the mall.
Staff has recommended that the proposed landscaped strip along the east side of the
site should be revised to accommodate a 24-foot-wide drive aisle to serve the Olive
Garden parking lot. When the Olive Garden was developed, they installed a 13-foot-
wide drive aisle adjacent to their westerly parking row. The Olive Garden site plan,
approved in 1989, anticipated an adjacent parking lot separated by a 24-foot-wide,
shared drive aisle. The applicant should provide this widened driveway and wrap
curb and gutter around their easterly landscape island as shown in staff's revision.
Boardmember Robinson asked staff if there were 101 parking spaces and how many
additional spaces would be gained if we go in the opposite direction. Staff said they
came up with 101 spaces, with one or two having been on the Olive Garden site.
Staff said that even if went back to the 99 parking spaces proposed, staff was okay
with that because of the abundance of additional parking.
There was a discussion about signage for Joe's Crab Shack. Boardmember Erickson
asked the applicant if they were going to put signage up on the green fascia. Mr.
Mullins said that the green fascia was the roof. Boardmember Shankar said that the
rooftop mechanical equipment should match the roof color instead of matching the
building color as stated under Item D 3. b. of the staff report. Mr. Mullins said there
would be nothing on the front side of the roof and on the back side there might be one
or two vents.
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Boardmember Shankar asked if the floor line was three feet above grade. Mr. Mullins
said it was actually two and one half feet above grade. Boardmember Shankar had
some questions about the grading between the garage door to the service area and
the restaurant.
Boardmember Erickson asked about the trash containers. Mr. Mullins said that the
trash containers were all inside. Boardmember Erickson asked if the applicant was
running cable wiring across the deck area. Mr. Mullins said this was wood railings.
Boardmember Robinson said that the restaurant entrance faced the south and asked
the applicant if this was why they didn't want the street to go through. Mr. Mullins
agreed. Boardmember Robinson asked if the public was coming in on the west as
well. Mr. Mullins said no, that typically the public would come in the south entrance
where the reception area will be. The exit shown on the west is actually a fire exit.
Boardmembers discussed the signage for Joe's Crab Shack. Boardmember Erickson
asked staff if two signs were the maximum. Staff said that under the sign code a
business can have two signs for each street frontage that they have. Staff said that
the applicant only had one street frontage. Staff is not recommending approval of the
five proposed wall signs but felt it was reasonable to allow two wall signs and one
freestanding sign.
Staff said Olive Garden has three wall signs and one ground sign because they are
on the corner and can have a total of four plus the code gives them an extra one
because they are on an intersection. McDonald's only has two signs, one on their
building and one on their pole. Staff recommended two signs on Joe's Crab Shack
building and one on the pole.
Boardmember Erickson asked staff if the "Free Crab Tomorrow" would be considered
a sign if it is painted on. Staff said yes it would be. Boardmember Erickson asked if it
would have to be eliminated. Boardmember Robinson said it was a north elevation
and the applicant could choose to put it on the back side. Boardmember Robinson
asked staff if, as an extra consideration, the applicant can use the extra wall sign on
the north if they choose and would that be in addition to the two wall signs and the
freestanding sign. Staff said that the applicant could have only two signs on the
building wherever they wished and one on a pole.
Mr. Mullins said they would want Joe's Crab Shack as a sign in the front but didn't
think they wanted "Free Crab Tomorrow" as a second sign because in their view it
wasn't really a sign. Mr. Mullins said that the Eat at Joe's sign and Joe's Crab Shack
sign are their two main signs so they would leave the Eat at Joe's sign on the side
that would catch traffic coming from one way and the majority of the shopping center,
and leave the Joe's Crab Shack sign on the front elevation.
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Boardmember Robinson asked where the freestanding sign was going. Mr. Mullins
said their original plan showed this sign in the southeast corner but it should be in the
southwest corner because they didn't want to encroach on the Olive Garden's
territory too much. Boardmember Shankar said that if the freestanding sign was put
on the southwest corner that the applicant might not want the other sign on the west
side but on the north side instead. The applicant agreed that the best place for the
signs would be one on the north elevation, one on the south, and the freestanding
sign on the southwest would take care of the west side. Staff agreed that this would
be acceptable. Boardmember Shankar asked if any of the signs were illuminated on
the building. Mr. Mullins said the Joe's Crab Shack sign and the Eat at Joe's sign
would be in neon lights.
Boardmember Shankar asked what the black thing was on the front of the building.
Mr. Mullins said it was a louvre. Boardmember Shankar asked if the louvre was going
to paint it black. Mr. Mullins said it was a screen and not actually painted black.
Boardmember Shankar said if it was black that it would detract from the appearance.
Mr. Mullins said it could be painted to match one of the other colors.
Boardmember Erickson asked the board to decide about the parking issue regarding
the connection between Joe's and the Olive Garden. Mr. Mullins said they would like
to have it closed because it is their front entrance. Boardmember Robinson said she
would respect the privacy of Joe's Crab Shack site itself and leave it closed.
Boardmember Shankar said he agreed with Boardmember Robinson.
Boardmember Shankar moved to approve the following:
A parking space reduction to allow a total of 99 parking spaces instead of 104,
because Birch Run Station has a large number of unused parking spaces that
the applicant could use as overflow parking.
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The plans, date-stamped June 24, 1998, for the proposed Joe's Crab Shack
restaurant west of 1749 Beam Avenue. Approval is based on the findings
required by the code and subject to the following conditions:
1. Repeat this review in two years if the city has not issued a building permit
for this project.
2. Before getting a building permit, the applicant shall:
a. Submit grading, drainage, utility and erosion control plans to the city
engineer for approval.
Provide evidence of recorded cross easements for parking and access
between the owners of Joe's Crab Shack and the abutting properties.
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Revise the site plan as shown on the map labeled Staff Proposal in the
memorandum which shows a 24-foot-wide drive aisle adjacent to the
Olive Garden's westerly north/south parking row. The applicant shall
wrap the adjacent landscape island with curb and gutter.
Revise the landscape plan to provide a ten-foot tree setback from the
water main for that part of the planting area that is over the water utility
easement. If a ten-foot setback cannot be provided, the applicant shall
substitute these trees with shrubs of a variety to be approved by staff.
3. The applicant shall complete the following before occupying the building:
a. Install reflectorized stop signs at both exits and a handicap parking
sign for each handicap parking space.
b. Paint the rooftop mechanical equipment, if used, to match the building
color.
c. Install an in-ground lawn irrigation system for all landscaped areas.
Provide site security lighting that is aimed or shielded so not to shine
into driver's eyes.
e. Install continuous concrete curbing around the parking lots and drives.
The color of the Iouvered screen on the south side shall be a neutral
color.
4. If any required work is not done, the city may allow temporary occupancy if:
a. The city determines that the work is not essential to the public health,
safety or welfare.
The city receives a cash escrow or an irrevocable letter of credit for the
required work. The amount shall be 200 percent of the cost of the
unfinished work. Any unfinished landscaping shall be completed by
June 1 if the building is occupied in the winter or within six weeks if the
building is occupied in the spring and summer.
c. The city receives an agreement that will allow the city to complete any
unfinished work.
All work shall follow the approved plans. The director of community
development may approve minor changes.
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C. Signage for Joe's Crab Shack:
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1. A maximum of two wall-mounted identification signs.
2. One ground sign.
3. The size and placement of all signs must comply with the city ordinance.
4. Staff may approve minor modifications to the sign plan.
Boardmember Robinson seconded.
VII. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
There were no visitor presentations.
VIII. BOARD PRESENTATIONS
Ayes--all
Boardmember Robinson reported on the July 13, 1998 City Council Meeting.
XI. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
A. Representative for August 10 City Council Meeting: Mr. Shankar will attend this
meeting.
B. The next Community Design Review Board meeting will be on July 28, 1998.
X. ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 7:11.
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