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AGENDA
MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, September 22, 2009
7:00 PM
City Hall Council Chambers
1830 County Road BEast
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
a. August 18, 2009
5. Public Hearings
6. New Business
a. In-Service Training: Street Reconstruction Program. The Process: Start to Finish-Michael
Thompson. (On July 7, the planning commission requested this in-service topic and a
presentation from the city engineer during the public works director's discussion of the Capital
Improvement Plan) - No Report
7. Unfinished Business
8. Visitor Presentations
9. Commission Presentations
a. Commissioner Report: There were no planning commission items for the September 14,
2009 city council meeting so there is nothing to present. This would have been
Commissioner Desai's turn had there been review items for the PC.
b. Upcoming City Council Meeting of September 28, 2009. At this time, there are not any
scheduled PC items for that meeting. Commissioner Yarwood is scheduled to attend should
there be a need.
10. Staff Presentations
11. Adjournment
DRAFT
MINUTES OF THE MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
1830 COUNTY ROAD BEAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 18,2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioner Joseph Boeser
Vice-Chairperson Tushar Desai
Chairperson Lorraine Fischer
Commissioner Harland Hess
Commissioner Robert Martin
Commissioner Gary Pearson
Commissioner Dale Trippler
Commissioner Joe Walton
Commissioner Jeremy Yarwood
Absent
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Absent
Present
City Staff Present:
Tom Ekstrand. City Planner
Steve Love. Staff Enqineer
DuWavne Konewko. Communitv Development and Parks Director
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the agenda as presented.
Commissioner Hess seconded
The motion passed.
Ayes - all
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. July 21,2009
Commissioner Trippler moved to approve the minutes of July 21, 2009 as presented.
Commissioner Desai seconded
Ayes - Desai, Fischer, Martin, Pearson, Trippler,
Yarwood
Abstention - Hess
The motion passed.
V. PUBLIC HEARING
a. 7:05 p.m.-The following are requested for a proposed Aldi's Store on White Bear Avenue to
the north and east of Batteries Plus, 2832 White Bear Avenue:
1) Comprehensive Land Use Plan Amendment for the property east of 2832 White Bear Avenue from
R1 (single dwelling residential) to BCM (business commercial modified);
2) Rezoning of this same property from R1 to BCM, and;
3) Rezoning of the property north of 2832 White Bear Avenue from LBC (limited business
commercial) to BCM.
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Planner Tom Ekstrand presented the staff report for this request to build a 16,619-square-foot grocery
store on the east side of White Bear Avenue between Premier Bank and Batteries Plus. Mr. Ekstrand
said this site would front on White Bear Avenue and include an access point on Radatz Avenue east
of Batteries Plus. Mr. Ekstrand said in staff's view, the rezoning would be suitable with proper
safeguards to make sure issues such as traffic, noise and lighting are properly safeguarded to protect
the neighborhood. Planner Ekstrand said the applicant originally proposed a row of parking along the
east side of the Radatz driveway, but staff felt it was not needed and asked the applicant to remove it
to increase the buffer to the neighborhood. Mr. Ekstrand said traffic would then need to take a right
turn toward White Bear Avenue when exiting the site to eliminate traffic from going into the
neighborhood to the east. Planner Ekstrand said it is planned at this time that there be only one
access point along White Bear Avenue to be shared by Aldi's and Premier Bank for a safer and more
efficient roadway. Mr. Ekstrand said that staff would not recommend the combining of the two lots if
the rezonings are not approved by the city council.
Commissioner Trippler asked if the loading dock could be shifted from the east side to the west side
of the site. Planner Ekstrand said he has not discussed any changes with the applicant, but he
suggested that this is the time to look at these options and opportunities. Commissioner Trippler
asked for clarification on the location and maintenance of the retention pond. Staff engineer Steve
Love explained that the underground ponding will be located underneath the parking lot. Mr. Love
explained a cross section of the ponding chambers and said there will be access points for each of
the chambers in order to vacuum them. Mr. Love said that according to the drainage calculations, this
system has been oversized beyond what is required by the Watershed District.
Commissioner Desai suggested that if there is a driveway through the Premier Bank parking to access
Aldi's, the inlet or outlet on Radatz Avenue is not needed since there will be two ways to get in and out
of Aldi's and this could placate some of the neighbors' issues. Mr. Desai said the truck/dock access
and garbage storage could then be moved to the other side of the building away from the neighbor.
Mr. Desai said potential traffic issues on White Bear Avenue have not been addressed in the staff
report and he would like to know what traffic study issues were considered. Engineer Steve Love
explained the White Bear Avenue reconstruction plans, saying that a center median is planned with a
right-in and right-out only allowed with the existing curb line along Batteries Plus and the vacant lot is
proposed to stay in the same location.
Commissioner Hess asked the materials proposed for the retaining wall and suggested that it be
extended to cover more of the building. Planner Ekstrand said he understands it is proposed to be
constructed with modular block.
Commissioner Martin suggested that verbiage to control noise issues from the loading dock be added
to the conditions of approval. Commissioner Martin asked if White Bear Avenue is planned for
reconstruction south of this area. Director Konewko said there is a plan for reconstruction of White
Bear Avenue south of this site, but he does not know the timeframe. Mr. Konewko said there is a
required condition of approval for this proposal that the applicant meet with the city, Ramsey County
and the consultant to ensure that all of the improvements are compatible with current and future White
Bear Avenue reconstruction plans.
Commissioner Yarwood said he has a problem with this proposal overall and has not heard reasons
why this property's land use designation needs to be reguided and impose on the residential
neighborhood.
The applicant, Ryan Stemmons, said he is the real estate director for Aldi's. Mr. Stemmons said he
does not believe that Radatz Avenue will be used as a main entrance or exit for Aldi's, but that White
Bear Avenue will be used primarily. Mr. Stemmons said that he believes that traffic wanting to go
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south on White Bear will exit through the Premier Bank access to Beam Avenue. Mr. Stemmons said
that deliveries would be made to the store from their warehouse about six times per week, with an
additional milk delivery made with a smaller truck at a maximum of three times per week. Mr.
Stem mons said there is a doorbell that the driver would ring internally to inform staff of the delivery
and trucks would not honk their horn unless it is an emergency situation or as a safety issue. Mr.
Stem mons said there is not a safety or security issue, since the store has its own security personnel
who could take care of any situation that might come up. Mr. Stemmons said that White Bear Avenue
will be used as the access for all deliveries and Radatz Avenue will not be used for deliveries.
Commissioner Desai mentioned that if the shared entry with the bank is moved further to the north,
maneuvering will be tight for delivery trucks to make their turns and could create further traffic
congestion. Mr. Stemmons agreed with Mr. Desai and said he would prefer separate curb cuts.
Commissioner Desai responded that Ramsey County prefers a single curb cut, so this will need to be
compromised. Commissioner Desai said he likes the idea of moving the dock area to the other side of
the building and having trucks enter through the Premier Bank parking lot to the dock area.
Commissioner Trippler asked if the applicant's engineer was present to discuss whether the loading
dock could be moved to the other side of the store. Andy Brandel, with I&S Group, said that there is
the ability to rearrange a store sometimes, but this store location is predicated on the site itself. Mr.
Brandel said they feel that moving the delivery access to White Bear Avenue would make it more
difficult to maneuver into and out of the site, along with traffic concerns. Commissioner Trippler asked
if an access point could be put on the northwest side of the building and also move the loading dock to
the west side of the building. Mr. Stemmons responded that to find if this could be done there would
need to be a truck turning template run to see if a truck could actually get in and out in this manner.
Commissioner Hess asked if a truck turning template was run on the proposed delivery access. Mr.
Stemmons responded affirmatively saying the truck turning template was run on the various entrances
to make sure the trucks could maneuver through the site.
Commissioner Pearson said he does not agree with the environmental planner's recommendation
suggesting the applicant apply for a variance to reduce parking stall size to allow more room for
additional green space. Mr. Pearson said he does not believe that anything less than a ten-foot stall
should be allowed for a grocery store. Mr. Pearson said this section should be removed entirely or the
language concerning a parking variance be removed. Planner Ekstrand said he agrees and that he
could clarify this item in a rewrite of the recommendation for the community design review board.
Commissioner Fischer asked if the applicant had any concerns with any of the conditions of the staff
recommendation. The applicant replied he did not have concerns.
The public hearing was opened for comments from the public. The following spoke:
Geoffrey Bull, 2035 Radatz Avenue, asked why we need an Aldi's when we have so many other
grocery places in the area. Mr. Bull said that Radatz is a residential road and should not be used as
an entrance and exit for a grocery store or a truck route.
Diane Richardson said she lives on the corner of Radatz and Chisholm Avenues. Ms. Richardson said
this proposal would affect her view, that Radatz is a residential street and this is a safety issue, and
Aldi's would change the character of the neighborhood and decrease property values.
Singdhansu Chatterjee, 1995 Radatz Avenue, said he is opposed to this proposal due to an invasion
of privacy of the neighbors, objected to city staff's plan to retain groundwater and drainage issues,
loss of trees and environmental damage issues, added crime, and decrease in property values.
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Commissioner Yarwood commented that Mr. Chatterjee has reasons to be concerned about this
development, but he has not helped his case with this presentation and suggested he rethink some of
the statements he made tonight and in his letter.
Commissioner Trippler suggested that staff respond to Mr. Chatterjee's comments on invasion of
privacy and asked the difference in the final grading for Aldi's and the elevation for 1995 Radatz
Avenue. Staff engineer Love explained that there is a difference of approximately 16 feet from the
finished floor of Aldi's to the grade around the house at 1995 Radatz-that it is 16 feet lower walking
into Aldi's than the grade around the west side of Mr. Chatterjee's house. Mr. Trippler said this would
make peering into windows difficult. Commissioner Trippler said the planning commission does not
determine if there is a market for another grocery store, but considers whether the application for a
proposal meets the land use and zoning designations and then it is up to the market to determine if it
is an appropriate place for a grocery store.
Baishali Bakshi, 1995 Radatz Avenue, said she strongly opposes the construction of the Aldi's grocery
store and spoke of the issues of crime, traffic, and loss of privacy.
Joann Georgi, 2004 Radatz Avenue, said her concern is why there is a need for another Aldi's in the
northeast suburbs. Ms. Georgi was concerned with trash, additional traffic, having an exit on Radatz,
not having to pay for the installation and then plow sidewalks, and changing the land use and zoning
designations for a big business.
Commissioner Trippler said his measurements show that if the entrance onto Radatz Avenue is
retained, it will only add traffic on 100 feet of Radatz Avenue.
Bernie Hess, 1602 Thomas Avenue, St. Paul, asked when the swppp plan (stormwater pollution
prevention plan) needs to be submitted, how the traffic study count was done, and when will the 60
day time limit expire. Director Konewko responded that this project will require a National Pollution
Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permit that would be issued by the MPCA. Mr. Konewko said
the Watershed District would also have control and access to this site and inspections would be done
to ensure compliance with the permit. It was noted the 60 day time limit for this application will expire
on September 14 but could be extended.
Gene Ganzer, 1984 Radatz Avenue, asked Mr. Trippler how he would like a commercial driveway
across from his living room with headlights shining into the living room. Mr. Ganzer said the person is
buying this property as residential and now selling it at a profit with a commercial zoning.
Geoffrey Bull again spoke saying that Radatz has a higher traffic flow than Beam Avenue, since traffic
going east tends to use Radatz rather than Beam because there is only one stop sign on Radatz as
opposed to two stop signs on Beam. Commissioner Trippler responded that once a year neighbors
can request stop signs from the city and this could help to control traffic. Staff engineer Love said he
does not have traffic count figures with him tonight, but it is something he can provide.
Baishali Bakshi again spoke asking if there has been an economic assessment done to find how
many jobs this project would add or how many jobs would be lost from the region. Commissioner
Martin responded that the planning commission does not consider the financial impact of a project.
Singdhansu Chatterjee, Diane and Lowell Richardson, Laura and Geoffry Bull and Baishali Bakshi all
submitted written statements to be entered into the meeting record which are attached to the end of
these minutes.
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Dan Regan, the seller's son, said he is in favor of this project and wants to see it go forward. Mr.
Regan spoke regarding the drainage, safety, privacy and the proposed screening. Mr. Regan said
they have a reciprocal easement agreement which allows traffic to flow through the bank parking lot.
Don Regan, owner of this property, said he bought this property to protect what goes on next to the
adjacent bank property. Mr. Regan gave a description of his properties in the area. Mr. Regan said he
wants to work with everyone and extended an invitation to stop by the bank building's 2nd floor where
people can view the adjacent property clearly.
Commissioner Trippler said he has not heard a compelling reason why the 1985 Radatz property
should be rezoned from R1 to BCM. Mr. Trippler said if the building were reconfigured and possibly
decreased somewhat in size on the IBC property, they could still build the store on the single property
on White Bear Avenue. Mr. Trippler said the 1985 Radatz property may need to be used for the
building entrance and exit.
Commissioner Pearson asked where the mechanical systems would be located. Randy Peak of Pope
Associates said the mechanical systems are rooftop equipment consisting of three packages. Mr.
Peak said that with the current building configuration they are to be located on the north face of the
building, as far from the residential area as possible.
Commissioner Pearson asked staff whether the current pond or the proposed underground drainage
system would perform better. Staff engineer Love said they are similar systems designed to capture a
certain amount of water and allow the rest to pass through and enter the storm sewer system. Mr.
Love said one happens to be above ground and one below ground.
The public hearing was closed for input from the public.
Commissioner Yarwood said he cannot support a change in the land use or zoning designations of
1985 Radatz Avenue, since he believes the LBC designation should be limited with entrances and
exits on White Bear Avenue. Mr. Yarwood said he is fine with this proposal iUhey can locate the
building on the property on White Bear Avenue.
Commissioner Desai agreed with Mr. Yarwood's comments saying he cannot support the land use
designation change for 1985 Radatz Avenue. Mr. Desai said the presentation made was not
compelling regarding the proposed zoning change being consistent with the spirit, purpose and intent
of the code and also, the control of noise.
Commissioner Pearson said he does not want to approve the R1 zoning change. Mr. Pearson said he
feels they are trying to shoehorn something into this space. Mr. Pearson referred to Planner Finwall's
report mentioning several times the insufficiency of green space and tree planting. Mr. Pearson said
he is not in favor of reducing parking spaces in order to gain green space. Mr. Pearson said he is not
opposed to the use, but is not in favor of this plan and cannot vote in favor of it.
Commissioner Hess agreed with the previous comments and said the land use designation has been
put in place to reguide this property to BCM designation. Mr. Hess said he objects to the zoning code
change based on the logistics, flow of traffic and semi trucks.
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The commission asked for input from the applicant on whether they would be willing to revise their
plan to use only the north portion of the 1985 Radatz property and locate the entrance and exit on
White Bear Avenue. Mr. Don Regan responded saying he believes the lot at 1985 Radatz goes all the
way to the bank lot and is an overly large property. Mr. Regan suggested that something may be done
with Batteries Plus, since they have an entrance on both Radatz and Beam Avenue. Mr. Regan said
as the owner he would be willing to come back to the commission with a revised plan, but he will need
to see if Aldi's is willing to do this since they would need to do a lot of revision. The representative
from Aldi's said they are willing to reconsider and look at other options, but said the major concern
with the reconfiguration of the site is the safety issues.
Commissioner Trippler moved adoption of the resolution approving a comprehensive land use plan
amendment to change the land use classification for the property located at 2836 White Bear Avenue
from LBC (limited business cornmercial) to BCM (business commercial modified). This amendment of
the land use classification is based on the following reasons:
1. It would be compatible with abutting commercial uses.
2. It would be compatible with the existing BCM zoning of the property.
Commissioner Yarwood seconded
The motion passed.
Ayes - all
Commissioner Trippler moved to table items B, C, D and E until the applicant and staff have time to
review the possible changes to reconfigure the site layout and resubmit the proposal.
Commissioner Pearson seconded
The motion passed.
Ayes - all
Commissioner Desai requested that staff look at the plan amendment request information which
requires that the commission fulfill conditions and bring back more information so the commission can
make a better decision.
Commissioner Pearson commented that he does not like the suggestion of reducing parking space
size, but is in favor of utilizing a "proof of parking" parking reserve method. This is encouraged since
it allows less paving and preserves green space. The parking could be put in as needed in the future
should the need arise. Commissioner Hess requested getting copies of the roof and floor plans of a
project and getting car count logs.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None
VII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
VIII. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
None
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IX. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
a. City Council Meeting of July 27, 2009: Commissioner Pearson reported on this meeting.
b. City Council Meeting of August 24, 2009: Commissioner Walton is scheduled.
X. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
None
XI. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
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Text of the contents of Mr. Singdhansu Chatterjee's speech, at the public
hearing on the proposal to rezone the residential lot at 1985 Radatz
Avenue, and on building a Aldi grocery store on this residential lot.
Ladies and gentlemen,
My name is Singdhansu Chatterjee. My wife and I live at 1995 Radatz
Avenue, which is the property that is just next to the one that is up for
rezoning and conversion to a grocery.
We are very strongly opposed to the proposed rezoning, and the setting
up of a grocery business on a residential lot. Ours is a very nice residential
neighborhood, and we would like to keep it that way.
I shall take a few minutes of your time to record my objections. These
objections can be tabulated into five broad categories. Frankly, I do not
see how any amount of revision, redesigning, or any other modification to
the current proposal can address some of the larger concerns that we have
as residents of Maplewood. Hence, I call upon you to reject this proposal
outright, and preserve Maplewood as a nice, American city where residents
can live in peace, and enjoy a decent quality of life. The quality of life aspect
in all this is very important; any city can be converted to a gradually creeping
business waste-yard. You need people to buy into these businesses, so it does
not help to convert people's backyards into commercial wasteland.
My first MAJOR MAJOR concern with the proposed rezoning and grocery-
building is about privacy. If you take a brief glance at the proposed building,
you'll notice that it opens right on to our bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen,
dining space. It has a grand view of Mrs. Vernie Mikiska's bedrooms, bath-
rooms and kitchen next door to us. One house down the road, the situation
is same with Peg and Elmer. Part of the proposed parking lot is less than
20 yards from our living room. The situation is same for those across the
road, for Darrell and his family, Gene next door, the house right in front of
ours. The owners of ALdi grocery, and Mr. and Mrs. Regan who currently
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own the property in question, might as well be putting video cameras in our
bedrooms and bathrooms.
No amount of fencing, no amount of setbacks and shrubs and trees will
remove our privacy concerns. The proposed construction is simply too close,
which of course is inevitable, since this after all is a residential neIghborhood.
We don't want to live with people peering into our bedrooms and bathrooms,
no matter how much entertainment it offers to the clients of Mr. and Mrs.
Regan's businesses or of Aldi.
My second very major concern is with the systemic misrepresentation of
the lay of the land over which the grocery is proposed to be built. Let me
give you a brief description of it. The land in that neighborhood is a bit up
and down, with some parts having a rather sharp gradient. The grocery is
proposed to be built on what used to be a natural depression, and is the lowest
point in the whole neighborhood. Some time back, when Premium Banks
extended its parking lot just North of my property, this natural depression
was converted to a small pond, or a water reservoir.
The entire neighborhood grades into this body of water. This is where all
the rainwater, all excess groundwater, the winter snow and ice melts drains
into. This body of water does not dry up except during the severest of
drought conditions, and I mean really really severe condition. I have a few
photographs here (photographs distributed) of the water reservoir and the
immediately close land mass, showing how much water it contains and how
the land from all around slopes into it. You will notice that the reservoir is
nearly full. This is after several days of 90+ temperature highs last week.
Just for comparison, you may have noticed White Bear Lake was in the news
three days back, because its level is 3 to 4 feet below normal (so that a new
ramp cannot be used).
Can you imagine what would happen if this reservoir is filled in, and a
large chunk of the neighboring land surface paved over? The entire winter
snow of the neighborhood, and all of our rainwater would have nowhere to go.
Unfortunately, the next lowest piece of land happens in this region happens
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to be the northern half of my property, and this piece of land would suffer
from flooding and eventual destruction. That, ladies and gentlemen, you
cannot expect me to agree to. I will not accept wanton destruction of my
property, or any attempt to convert it to a bog.
If Maplewood city is bent on building a grocery bang in the "middle of a
residential neighborhood despite our strongest objections, we insist this water
reservoir and the surrounding trees be left untouched. Perhaps alternative
reservoirs can be built where there is also a natural gradation of the land,
for example at the site of Premium bank's parking lot just North of my
property, or just West of that where Premium bank has its drive through
windows. Surely Mr. and Mrs. Regan will not object to trading on a piece
of Premium Bank's lot if they really want to set a grocery on their residential
lot?
In any case, we insist that the water reservoir and its surrounding land
be preserved, or an alternative 100,000 cubic feet reservoir created in an
adjacent location on Premium Bank's lot, before further proposals before
1985 Radatz Avenue can proceed.
I have mentioned only about the water-logging and the harm to my own
property in the context of this body of water. I am passing on the very, very
serious environmental concerns. Do you like the fact that a great American
bald eagle is nesting at Keller Lake? Are you excited about it? Well, if you
are, then you should try your best to preserve the small biosphere reserve of
this water reservoir. I will not go into how these are connected through bio-
cycles and other environmental ecology, but the main idea is that preserving
nice neighborhoods like ours are not just crucial to the human residents, but
for the bio-system as a whole.
However, let me show you what we have already lost in the last couple
of years. This (aerial photo of the neighborhood shown) is a satellite photo
of the neighborhood. This region is free of trees now, and is just a barren
piece of land. By standard methods, I estimate we have lost 70-100 trees
of various ages, many of them fully mature. All of you have heard about
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greenhouse gases and global warming; many of you are aware of carbon
offsetting. Do you realize what the 70 trees that we have lost represent in
this context? This could have offset the entire carbon contribution of the
Maplewood Mall. Instead, our neighborhood is up against elevated levels of
noise, pollution and what have you. Now I say, we have lost enough peace
and quiet, enough of our neighborhood, enough of our environment towards
the profiteering of Mr. Regan. Let us put an end to it now, and save at least
our residential regions from being laid to waste.
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What does a residential lot's conversion to a business bring for us neigh-
bors? I have tried to do a little research on this, and based on public records,
papers, minutes of town hall meetings like these, there is absolutely uniform
evidence that there is a 15-40 % decrease in property values. Some instances
of losses of up to 80 % have been mentioned. None of us can take a loss of
an additional 40 %, to add to the 20 % or more loss we have suffered due to
the current economic crisis.
From my communications with the city, I have come to know that convert-
ing our residential properties to businesses was never ever a part of Maple-
wood's development plan, it was not even at a concept stage ever. Our
property lots have always been guided for being single family residences. Let
us keep things the way they are, as a nice residential neighborhood. Another
store, to add to two major grocery stores (Rainbow and Cub Foods), a whole-
sale retailer (Costco) and numerous small stores that are located within a
mile from us, is completely unnecessary. All it will bring is misery, crime, job
loss, and decrease in property values. Let us reject this proposal outright,
and invite Mr. and Mrs. Regan to build their house on the lots in question,
and enjoy our neighborhood.
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Re: Proposed Aldi site - 1
August 18, 2009
Maplewood City Council
To Whom It May Concern:
We are opposed to building Aldi on White Bear Avenue between Beam Avenue and Radatz Avenue
for the reaSons outlined below. We would like first to respond to the June 19, 2009 letter to the City
of Maplewood's Community Development Department from I & S Group:
I & S Group Letter
"... [proposed Aldi site] may help provide
a buffer from the high traffic, heavy commercial
areas into the residential."
Rebuttal
A commercial property cannot be
a "buffer" against another commercial
property. A buffer would be something
which is different and which shields or
protects the neighborhood from the
harmful effects of having commercial
property in their back yards. Having an
Aldi in this location would actually create
the things which the letter says it would
be a buffer against.
"This proximity may also promote pedestrian
traffic to the site and should promote the
character of the neighborhood by adding a
small marketplace to directly serve it."
1. Extra pedestrian traffic is not a pro;
it would be a safety concern along with
the extra vehicle traffic that Aldi would
bring. There are no sidewalks on
Radatz. There have already been near
accidents and at least one pedestrian-
vehicle accident on Radatz and White
Bear; the extra vehicle traffic would
increase those safety risks.
2. Walgreens, Les's Superette,
Rainbow Foods, and Cub Foods are
nearby. These and other stores in the
vicinity provide plenty of marketplace
choices. Aldi would conceivably be a
competitor for Les's, which has been a
staple in this community for 30 years or
more. Les's is a convenience store and
it also has a gas station and a post
office branch. If Aldi compromised the
stability of Les's, it could be taking away
some of the neighborhood options
rather than adding to them.
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3. The local trees, the wildlife, the two
nearby parks and lakes/ponds provide
the kind of character which appeals to
homeowners Cilnd potential buyers; a
commercial property like Aldi would not
provide the kind of "character" a
homeowner would be looking for-
especially since so many other grocery
options exist.
"... [Aldi will) conserve property values..."
If this were the case, we would be
happy at the thought of Aldi moving to
our neighborhood. On the contrary, we
would not have considered moving to
our current house if there had already
been an Aldi there. "Location, location,
location" is the Catchphrase in real
estate. An Aldi would not provide the
kind of location ambiance that
homeowners are looking for.
"... [Aldi would) provide desirable services to
the neighborhood and the City as a whole."
See above comments about the
plentiful services which currently
exist nearby.
"The proposed Aldi Grocery Store is a logical
use for the property that fits well into the
surrounding properties and is in accordance
with the City of Maplewood's land use and
zoning standards."
1. We do not believe a commercial
property of this scope and magnitude
is the logical choice for this location.
It would disrupt the structure of the
neighborhood. A more suitable option
would be a business of smaller scope
with an entrance only on White Bear
Avenue-a business which would not
invite the extra traffic on Radatz and
which would be less conspicuous and
intrusive to the neighboring homes.
2. Although this property is already
zoned for commercial use, Radatz is
zoned for residential use so an entrance
on Radatz would be an issue.
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If Aldi is built at the above location, we are vehemently opposed to having an entrance on Radatz for
the following additional reasons.
. Creeping commercialism in a residential neighborhood. This would set a precedent for more
commercial spread later.
· Increased noise and traffic on Radatz-both cars and especially trucks. This would cause
undue wear and tear on the road, which would mean residents paying sooner/more often for
road maintenance work - especially in light of increased truck traffic, which causes far more
damage to roads than car traffic.
· Safety concerns. People (and their dogs) regularly walk and ride their bikes on Radatz, which
has no sidewalks. School children walk to and from and wait for school buses on Radatz. There
are many children in this area. There would be an increased risk of danger to them and others
with the extra traffic.
· Property value decreases. The present economy has already lowered property values of
homes; the above issues would sink property values even more.
We hope our concerns will be given serious consideration.
Sincerely,
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Diane Richardson
Lowell Richardson
2710 Chisholm Avenue
North St. Paul, MN 55109-1712
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Radatz is a residential road and should not be used as a
main entrance/exit to a grocery store, nor should it be used
as a truck route.
Increased foot traffic on Radatz would not be advisable as
there are no sidewalks!
Our already overtaxed property does not need the added
cost of sidewalks being installed.
No sidewalks and increased foot traffic seems to be an
accident waiting to happen.
We have already had a serious truck/pedestrian accident at
the White Bear Ave / Radatz Ave intersection that involved
a High School Girl walking, a school bus route, to school.
Small children will not be safe with increased traffic and
you are asking us to put our children in harms way in order
that a another grocery store can be opened in an area that
already has 2 major supermarkets and 2 smaller
convenience stores.
One of these convenient stores will certainly go out of
business with the addition of a cut price/ low price major
store.
Weare actually served by ( cub rainbow les's walgreens
target cosco kmart And more) more than a dozen food
stores in a 2 mile distance from the proposed new store.
Only one has a Post Office attached. That is the store that
will go out of business first.
People in this area will no longer be able to walk to a post
office. The go ahead will deprive our older people from a
major way of communicating with the outside world and
their families.
It has been pointed out that there are plenty of areas of
commercially zoned land not in use. In this economic time
it would make more sense to utilize already available
commercial land than to rezone a residential area.
We believe that the lot on Radatz, that Aldi's wishes to use
as the exit/entrance, should not be rezoned to accommodate
this, but should instead be used as a sound/visual buffer
between the store and the neighborhood.
We believe we are not alone in saying NO to the rezoning
of the lot on Radatz and use of Radatz as a major supply
route for a store that is too big for the available space.
Laura & Geoffrey Bull
2035 RadatzAve E
August 18 2009
Text of the contents of Ms. Baishali Bakshi's speech, at the public hearing
on the proposal to rezone the residential lot at 1985 Radatz Avenue, and
build a Aldi grocery store on this residential lot.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Good Evening! I am Baishali Bakshi and I live
with my husband Singdhansu Chatterjee at 1995 Radatz Avenue, Maplewood
city. I am here today to strongly oppose the rezoning of the neighboring
property at 1985 Radatz Avenue and the construction of a Aldi grocery
store on this property, as proposed by Mr. Don Regan of Premier Bank, also
our neighbor. The main reasons for opposing this construction are:
1. Loss in market value of our property and neighboring properties.
2. Serious privacy issues for our property given the grocery store will look
in on our kitchen and bedrooms.
3. Increase in traffic, pollution and noise
4. Eroding community value by opening the neighborhood to criminal
activity.
5. Environmental degradation owing to building on a body of water that
currently serves as a) reservoir for wastewater runoffs, b )habitat for
local urban wildlife and c) urban oases for residents.
As my husband has already spoken about the privacy and property value
issues, I will draw your attention to the safety and environmental issues
posed by the construction of this grocery next door to our house.
Firstly, I am concerned about the continued safety of our neighborhood.
This is a nice and quiet American community with several elderly residents
as also families with young children and household pets who sometimes walk
and play on Radatz A venue. A grocery store on this street will not only
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i!lcrease the flow of traffic in a residential area but also increase the du-
ration of traffic activity including 18 wheeler trucks that can now layover
at odd hours. Consequently, noise, pollution and most importantly, crime
in the area would increase. In a survey of urban crime it has been found
that 80% of the crimes committed in shopping facilities actually happen in
parking lots: many of these are hate crimes, homicides and rapes, drug and
human trafficking and other extremely serious violations. This implies that
the proposed construction will be an open invitation to such crimes in this
residential area eroding completely the spirit of this community. Secondly,
I am concerned about the environmental degradation this construction will
be causing. Currently there is a body of water on the northern end of the
1985 plot that acts as a reservoir for the wastewater runoffs from neighboring
properties including our own. This is clear from the photos that show the
gradient of the land with respect to this water body that also serves as a
habitat for local wildlife. To us, it is a rare urban oasis that we enjoy while
walking/ gardening in our backyard. The grocery store is proposed to be built
on this water body. Once again, owing to the gradient of the land, following
the construction, the wastewater from neighboring properties will settle on
the far end of our property: 1995 Radatz Avenue, making a portion of our
lawn a cesspool unfit for humans or wildlife but serving as a breeding ground
for disease carriers like mosquitoes and other pathogens.
Given the privacy and property value issues already raised, the construc-
tion of the Aldi grocery store on 1985 Radatz Avenue will make our property
unlivable and our lives unbearable in several ways. In short, it will lead to
loss in privacy, loss in property values, loss in community value and envi-
ronmental degradation. I put it to your judgment to consider whether the
construction of another cheap chain store is worth all of these losses in the
economy that we're currently in.
Thank you for your time.
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