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MINUTES OF THE MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
1830 COUNTY ROAD BEAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
TUESDAY, MAY 19, 2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioner Joseph Boeser
Vice-Chairperson Tushar Desai
Chairperson Lorraine Fischer
Commissioner Harland Hess
Commissioner Robert Martin
Commissioner Gary Pearson
Commissioner Dale Trippler
Commissioner Joe Walton
Commissioner Jeremy Yarwood
City Staff Present:
Present
Absent
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
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Tom Ekstrand. Citv Planner
Shann Finwall. Environmental Planner
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the agenda as presented.
Commissioner Trippler seconded
The motion passed.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. May 5, 2009
Ayes - all
Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the amended minutes of May 5, 2009, removing Mr. Boeser's
name from the voting in Item IV. and changing the phrase wet-cast to pre-cast in the last sentence of the
second paragraph on page 2.
Commissioner Hess seconded
The motion passed.
V. PUBLIC HEARING
Ayes - Fischer, Hess, Martin, Pearson, Trippler, Walton, Yarwood
Abstention - Boeser
a. 7:05 p.m.: Conditional Use Permit-T-Mobile Cell Phone Tower, 1961 County Road C
Planner Ekstrand presented the staff report for this request by T -Mobile to erect a 75-foot-tall wireless
telecommunications tower for cellular telephone operations on land leased from Independent School
District No. 622 at the Harmony Learning Center, located at 1961 County Road C East. The pole would
be located where a 30-foot light pole currently exists within the school's parking lot. Mr. Ekstrand
explained that this proposal meets all of the ordinance criteria for tower height and location.
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Commissioner Trippler said the tower location is a safety issue in the area of the school bus loading area
and asked why it was not located in the ball field outfield area.
Commissioner Hess said he observed the site and the proposed tower location would be in the school's
bus loading area. Mr. Hess said the tower would not be aesthetically pleasing in that area.
Commissioner Boeser questioned why the site location on such a large parcel was not established away
from the school or on another site in the area.
Pat Conlin said she works for FMHC and as an agent representing T-Mobile. Ms. Conlin said their request
for this tower is due to the expanding number of cell phone users. Ms. Conlin said the suggested water
tower location will not work since it is too low and it will not penetrate the environment within this
particular search ring. Ms. Conlin explained that T-Mobile considered several other possible tower location
sites in this area, but none of them met the needed requirements. Ms. Conlin said Harmony School is now
being used for adult education and there are no children attending the school. Ms. Conlin explained that
the representatives of the school have signed the application and lease agreement with T -Mobile and are
very familiar with the details of this project. Ms. Conlin explained that the tower location was determined
because the city's ordinance prefers that an existing site be used and T -Mobile would be replacing an
existing light and not be adding something else on the property. Ms. Conlin explained that monopoles are
constructed in such a way that even in hurricane environments they do not fail.
Thierry Colson, engineer for T-Mobile, said this proposal is for a very low power system with an output of
the transmitter equipment on the base system of 25 watts.
Commissioner Walton asked why the tower height was set for 75 feet. Ms. Conlin responded that in this
zoning code area 75 feet is the maximum allowed height with one collocation.
Commissioner Trippler asked if the commission's recommendation tonight included a change of location
for the tower to the northeast or northwest corner of the site, and if the school district agreed with this
change, if T-Mobile would be agreeable to change the location. Ms. Conlin responded that when T-Mobile
designs a site they consider the landlord's needs, the existing utilities on the property, and what makes
sense from a construction cost standpoint. Ms. Conlin explained that if all things considered are equal and
with landlord approval and a reasonable location found, T-Mobile would not be adverse to it. Ms. Conlin
said this request meets all of the city's code requirements.
The public hearing was opened for comments from the public:
Linda Olson, the resident adjacent to the proposed tower, said her property extends to the adjacent
wetland and the lot next to her is owned by the Olson Property Trust, who is her brother. Ms. Olson
mentioned this property has been owned by her family for many years. Ms. Olson said she will be able to
see this tower out of every window in her house and she feels there is a better location for the tower. Ms.
Olson said she is opposed to this proposal and with having this tower constructed in this location.
Commissioner Hess moved the planning commission table this request for a conditional use permit for the
proposed 75-foot-tall wireless telecommunications tower and ground equipment until a more suitable
location is found.
Commissioner Pearson seconded
The commission discussed whether this request could be approved for another location on this proposed
school district site or whether tabling this request until the next meeting to allow more time to look at
various locations would be more appropriate.
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The commission voted on the motion to table:
Ayes-Fischer, Hess, Martin, Pearson, Trippler,
Walton, Yarwood
Nays-Boeser
The motion passed.
Patricia Conlin asked for clarification on what locations the commission would be agreeable to. The
commission responded they would like the applicant to look at other locations and also investigate the
northeast and northwest corners of this site. Ms. Conlin reiterated that T -Mobile's request for the proposed
school district location meets all of the city's code requirements.
b. 8:41 p.m.: Conditional Use Permit Amendment-Bruentrup Heritage Farm, 2170 County Road D
Planner Shann Finwall presented the staff report for this request for a conditional use permit amendment.
Planner Finwall said the Maplewood Area Historical Society (MAHS) was originally granted approval of the
conditional use permit to operate the Bruentrup Farm. Planner Finwall explained that the Society now is
requesting approval for the Bruentrup Heritage Farm facility to be rented out for large events, in addition to
hosting their own small and large events.
Commissioner Hess asked for clarification on what the noise ordinance and required hours of compliance
would be for this facility. Planner Finwall responded that the noise ordinance requires that no disturbing
noises be generated after 7 p.m., but that staff is recommending that all large-scale music be held inside
the barn only.
Commissioner Boeser said he is concerned with possible noise complaints with people coming and going
from the facility during wedding events. Mr. Boeser said he has concerns with the applicant not being able
to provide transportation from the Salvation Army parking site for large events.
Commissioner Trippler said he has concerns with the discrepancy between the city and applicant
regarding the maximum allowable occupancy, the requirement that renters obtain additional liability
insurance, and the problems with transporting people in rainy weather in an open wagon.
Commissioner Martin commented that the improvements to widen White Bear Avenue recently
considered by the commission are already reducing parking spaces for businesses along White Bear
Avenue.
Robert Overby was present representing the applicant, Maplewood Area Historical Society. Mr. Overby
said the MAHS envisions hosting three to six non-historical events annually. Mr. Overby said the MAHS
has worked with staff to complete the necessary requirements to hold large events and by controlling the
type of activities that would be held at the farm. Mr. Overby said the MAHS agrees with the need for a
shuttle to transport people from the parking areas to the farm and that the tractor and wagon would not be
used for large groups or after dark. Mr. Overby said they have a written agreement with Salvation Army for
78 parking spaces and expect to get a written agreement with Harbor Pointe for another 250 parking
spaces.
Commissioner Boeser commented that if the MAHS eliminated holding weddings and not allowing alcohol
at the farm most of the issues would go away. Mr. Overby said weddings were seen as a target group
where there might be limited rental interest and would create larger revenue.
Carolyn Peterson, 1801 Gervais Avenue and a member of MAHS, said the purpose of MAHS is as an
historical farm. Ms. Peterson said they have school groups coming to the farm, but they need to have
fund raising to support the farm expenses.
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Commissioner Hess commented that if the situations could be controlled and liability issues are taken care
of, he did not see any problem with having an occasional wedding at the farm and he understands that
they would probably generate more cash flow than some of the other events.
Commissioner Pearson said he would not be upset if a rental of a smaller group wedding were held that
celebrates the heritage. Mr. Pearson said he does not like use of the wagon or cutting another trail through
what is supposed to be prairie land and maintained as such. Mr. Pearson said he also has a problem with
the current conditional use permit that requires "the use would generate minimal vehicular traffic local
streets and would not create traffic congestion or unsafe access on an existing street" and Mr. Pearson
said he feels this proposal would. Mr. Pearson said the existing conditional use permit calls for additional
parking with an amendment of the permit.
Mr. Overby responded that staff has determined that the grade off of County Road D is too steep to allow
the westerly parking area to be enlarged. Mr. Overby said that even for medium-sized events, MAHS
would need to rely on additional off-site parking with a shuttle bus provided.
Commissioner Pearson said he is concerned that this proposal could be precedent setting. Mr. Overby
responded that if the commission finds it is not appropriate to use off-site parking, an expansion of the
existing parking lot will need to be investigated or the weddings will need to be held during daytime hours
with no alcohol served. Mr. Overby said the MAHS is open to trying various rental events in trying to make
this fund raising successful.
Richard Currie, a member of the Maplewood Preservation Commission, said at their last meeting a motion
was made to have this request for a CUP amendment come before their commission before it went before
the planning commission, but staff moved it to the planning commission first. Mr. Currie said many issues
were added by staff that the preservation commission is not in favor of.
Char Wasiluk, 1740 Frank Street and a member of MAHS, said she wanted to comment on the negative
attitude on the weddings. Ms. Wasiluk said there was a large wedding held at the farm last fall and there
was only one small complaint regarding driving a vehicle on the trail and the driver was told to stop
immediately. Ms. Wasiluk said farm weddings are very popular and are a good way for MAHS to raise
funds.
George Rossbach, 1406 County Road C East and a member of MAHS, said that many volunteer hours
and dollars have gone into the farm in the last ten years. Mr. Rossbach said the stumbling block at this
point seems to be a historic event as opposed to a non-historic event. Mr. Rossbach said he hates to see
the weddings eliminated as a source of income. Mr. Rossbach said the use of the building for fund raising
is quite limited, since there is no heat or air conditioning in the building.
Nicholas and Chris Glendenning, 2226 County Road D East, said he considers a large wedding with
alcohol much different than a youth sock hop in the barn. Mr. Glendenning is concerned with living next to
a wedding reception hall, loud music after 10-11 p.m., traffic and littering. Chris Glendenning clarified that
they live two houses from the farm with all of the bedrooms facing the farm. Ms. Glendenning said they
are concerned with loud noise since they have young children.
Commissioner Trippler said he is concerned that this proposal would set a precedent; he is concerned
with damages to the buildings and property with alcohol being used, and excessive noise in the
neighborhood.
Commissioner Fischer said she was concerned with considering this proposal without the
recommendation from the historical commission.
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Robert Overby suggested that if the commission is going to table this proposal, that direction be given to
MAHS by the commission of their consensus of what should be eliminated.
There were no further comments from the public; the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Trippler commented that members of MAHS have heard the comments and concerns
tonight and should be able to make some changes based on their wants or what they think is appropriate,
rather than having the commission tell them their wants.
Commissioner Hess said he has some of the same concerns with safety, security, and noise, but he feels
if there is security on site, shuttle service to the site, limited hours and noise constraints, the weddings
could be successful and provide the needed revenue.
Commissioner Hess moved to table this request until the historical commission considers it and gives its
recommendation.
Commissioner Martin seconded
The motion passed.
Ayes - all
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None
VII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
VIII. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
None
IX. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
a. May 11, 2009 City Council Meeting: Commissioner Yarwood reported on this meeting.
b. Upcoming City Council Meeting of May 28, 2009: Commissioner Fischer will attend.
X. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
a. 2009 Summer Planning Commission Tour Date Suggestions
Planner Ekstrand asked for suggested dates to hold the commission tour. The commission provided
suggestions and chose July 1 as their first choice.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p.m.