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ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MINUTES
TUESDAY, October 7, 2008
COUNCIL CHAMBERS - MAPLEWOOD CITY HALL
1830 COUNTY ROAD BEAST
1 CALL TO ORDER - 5:17 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present:
Commissioner Judith Johannessen
Commissioner Carole Lynne
Commissioner Frederica Musgrave
Commissioner Bill Schreiner
Commissioner Carol Mason Sherrill
Commissioner Dale Trippler
Chair Ginny Yingling
Council Liaison Present: Kathleen Juenemann
Staff Present:
Shann Finwall - Environmental Planner
Ginny Gaynor - Open Space Naturalist
Ann Hutchinson - Lead Naturalist
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
a. Chair Yingling added a commission presentation on Fish Creek.
b. Commissioner Musgrave added a commission presentation on transit.
c. Planner Finwall added two staff presentations (Maplewood Seasons and
City News).
Chair Yingling made a motion to approve agenda, seconded by
Commissioner Mason Sherrill, the motion carried by a vote of 7 to O.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. August 19, 2008
Commissioner Musgrave recommended a need for protocol for the
minutes. She suggested not using the story-telling format and to just
include the motions and processes.
Proposed changes to the minutes by the commission included:
1. Third point under item 3 on page 6, the word commission should
be changed to city.
2. Under call to order, change the word to nominated 4th point on
page 6 change wording to - "Commissioner Johannessen pointed
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out that the model ordinance was for review and meant as an
overview,"
3. Page 6, the last bullet - the two sentences should be one
sentence not two.
Commissioner Trippler made a motion to approve the August 19 minutes
as amended, seconded by Commissioner Schreiner. The motion carried
by a vote of 4 to 1 with Commissioner Musgrave voting against and
Commissioner Mason Sherrill and Chair Yingling abstaining.
b. September 2, 2008
Chair Yingling made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Trippler to
approve the September 2 minutes as written. The motion carried by a
vote of 6 to 0 with Commissioner Musgrave abstaining.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
a. Wetland Ordinance
Planner Finwall reviewed three main changes made during the
September 2 meeting. She mentioned that the revised Wetland
ordinance with changes is also included in the packet. Tonight the
Environmental Commission is being asked to review the changes for
accuracy and once the Commission makes their final recommendation,
the ordinance will be forwarded to the City Council.
The commissioners reviewed the ordinance and suggested six minor
modifications. Chair Yingling then asked if there were any comments
from the visitors.
Sharon Sandeen, 1748 Gulden Place stated that the definition of lawn
does not include all uses referenced in the September 2 packet. She
stated that this is not consistent with what the staff recommendations are
on this point. She feels that language needs to be clarified. Under
nonconforming use Ms. Sandeen stated it would allow homeowners to
rebuild only if best management practices were implemented on the
property. She said this does not seem consistent with the intent, which
was to allow people to rebuild and use their lawn the way they were using
them. And last is the item on access to a lake, the added language only
allows removal of vegetation which is under the DNR's jurisdiction, within
the ordinary high water mark. Lake owners need to access the lake by
walking through the vegetation which is in the buffer zone.
Tom Devink, 220 South Sixth Street (attorney for Rolling Hills
Manufactured Home Park) states that he would like to see the non-
conforming language added which states that "after the date of adoption
of this chapter, it shall be permitted nonconforming use to place any
manufactured home on property that is of the date of the adoption of this
chapter, either occupied by manufactured home or located in a
manufactured home community."
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Paul Ruby, 1334 Pearson Drive, president of Rolling Hills Association.
Mr. Ruby stated that even though the city attorney states that state
statute would cover the replacement of nonconforming manufactured
homes in the buffer, he would prefer that the nonconforming language be
added into the city's wetland ordinance as an added precaution.
Elizabeth Sletten, 2747 North Clarence Street, stated that federal laws
have been broken during this process. She said that you cannot create a
wetland and then call it a wetland because you are creating a wetland
ordinance.
Council Member Juenemann suggested that the legal issue of whether to
add the nonconforming language requested by Attorney Devink might be
something for the city council to tackle since the city attorney has already
recommended to the commission that the language not be added.
Commissioner Yingling suggested incorporating the following language
changes:
=> Redefine lawn area under definitions - "Lawn area means an area
of mowed turf grass or other areas used for the purpose of
outdoor enjoyment which may include gardening, non-permanent
structures, and patios or play areas."
=> Page 10 item I, add language - "have access as described by
section 2. f. to be consistent with the access approved by the
permit.
Chair Yingling made a motion to adopt the language for lawns and DNR
permits. Seconded by Commissioner Schreiner, the motion carried by a
vote of 6 to 1 with Commissioner Musgrave voting against the motion.
Commissioner Schreiner made a motion to keep the nonconforming
language regarding manufactured home parks out of the ordinance and to
recommend approval of the ordinance, seconded by Commissioner
Trippler. The motion carried by a vote of 6 to 1 with Commissioner
Musgrave against.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Environmental Natural Resource Commission Rules of Procedure
Planner Finwall brought forward two points from the City Council
regarding formulizing the rules:
1) Special meetings should be changed to 72 hours notice rather
than 45 hours to reflect state statute which requires public
notification of open meetings at least three days in advance.
2) The commissioners should review the language on abstaining to
ensure it meets their intent.
Chair Yingling made a motion to adopt the recommended changes to the
rules of procedure, seconded by Commissioner Musgrave. The motion
carried by a vote of 7 to O.
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b. Environmental Ordinance
Planner Finwall brought this to the commission's attention to get their
initial review and reaction with the intent of bringing it back in the future.
In particular she asked the commission to review the following items prior
to the next meeting:
1) The last portion in regards to slopes and critical areas.
2) Standards and guidelines for local governments when adopting
ordinances in critical areas.
c. Wind Towers
Planner Finwall stated that there has been some interest expressed to
city staff from one resident and one business about the feasibility of
installing a wind tower on their property. Maplewood does not have an
ordinance which regulates wind towers currently. Included in the staff
report are some background material and a proposed ordinance by
Woodbury for the commission's review. Staff will bring this item back to
the commission in the future.
7. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
8. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
a. Fish Creek: Chair Yingling mentioned a concern about damage to Fish
Creek resulting from off road vehicles. She contacted staff who contacted
the police department. She wanted to note that city staff and Ramsey
County have now blocked off access to that area.
b. Transit: Commissioner Musgrave is wondering if the commission is going
to address mass transit.
Commissioner Yingling stated that a discussion of transit can be added to
the commission's goal setting meeting.
8. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
a. U of M Senior Project (Sustainable Maplewood)
Naturalist Gaynor gave the commission an update on the Capstone
Project and welcomed Professor Gary Johnson along with one of the
students. She mentioned projects students will be working on:
=> Impervious surfaces in the Maplewood Mall area.
=> Public area vegetation
=> Sustainable park issues, park use
=> Green work place model
=> Connectivity with neighboring cities
=> Education
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Gary Johnson, U of M professor, gave the commission an overview of the
Capstone course. He also noted questions and comments from the
commission.
b. Collaborative Buckthorn Project
Naturalist Gaynor mentioned that we have an invitation by North St. Paul
to join their environmental commission along with Oakdale to do a hands
on buckthorn removal project at Joy Park on November 8.
c. Maplewood Nature Center Landscaping
Naturalist Hutchinson mentioned a buckthorn removal event at Vista Hills
Park. She also passed around info on targeted areas for the city's
buckthorn removal program.
Ann Hutchinson also gave an overview on the Maplewood Nature Center
sustainable landscape project. She stated the goals and objectives
include addressing storm water management; promote and demonstrate
best management practices for sustainable landscaping.
She also reviewed upcoming programs at the nature center including Bird
Feeder Watch and Feed the Animals.
Planner Finwall stated due to time she would e-mail items d through g to the
commissioners for their comments.
10. MEETING ADJOURNED - 6:58 p.m.
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