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July 20, 2005
Dear Parks and Recreation Commissioners:
Enclosed is your packet of information for the readjusted meeting set for Monday, July 25, 2005. The
major items on the agenda will be to review the Maplecrest Park survey results as well as discuss the
Gladstone redevelopment process.
I understand some of the commissioners' frustration with the Gladstone redevelopment process, but I
would argue that this may well be the biggest decision and make -or -break deal for our department for
the next decade. I realize those are very strong words, but I hope you will review the enclosed
material closely as it would be my desire for the commission to make a formal recommendation as to
which plan concept you prefer as well as any alternatives that you might suggest.
The next meeting for the Gladstone redevelopment project is Thursday, August 11, which will be held
at the Maplewood Community Center.
Should you have any questions regarding the enclosed information, please contact me directly at
(651) 249-2102.
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Enclosures
PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT 651-249-2101 FAX: 651-249-2129
CITY OF MAPLEWOOD 1 830 COUNTY ROAD B EAST MAPLEWOOD, MN 55109
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MAPLEWOOD PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JULY 25, 2005
MAPLEWOOD CITY HALL
MAPLEWOOD ROOM
7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
7:00 pm 1. Call to Order
*7:02 pm 2. Approval of Agenda
*7:03 pm 3. Approval of June 27, 2005 Minutes
*7:05 pm 4. Maplecrest Basketball
7:30 pm 5. Gladstone Update
4D 7:45 pm 6. Park Update
8:15 pm 7. C.I.P Video
8:45 pm 8. Commissioners' Comments
9:00 pm 9. Director's Comments
a. Sandy Lake
b. Basketball Complex
c. 2006 Budget
9:15 pm 10. Adjournment
* Items that need formal commission action
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MAPLEWOOD PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JUNE 27, 2005
• MAPLEWOOD CITY HALL
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Present: Commissioners Rick Brandon, Craig Brannon, Audrey Duellman, Daniel Enga,
Peter Fischer, Peter Frank, Carolyn Peterson
Absent: Commissioners Tom Geskermann, Don Christianson
Staff: Bruce Anderson, Parks and Recreation Director
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A motion was made by Commissioner Peterson, seconded by Commissioner Duellman, to
approve the agenda as submitted. The motion passed unanimously, ayes all
3. GLADSTONE UPDATE
Staff provided a brief background for the Gladstone redevelopment process. Chairperson Peter
Fischer, who represents the parks and recreation commission on the task force, provided an
excellent verbal update.
. Chair Fischer indicated that he provided the Gladstone committee background information
regarding the proposed redevelopment and impacts on park usage. Chair Fischer was very clear
that he is not speaking on behalf of the entire commission and that the commission has not
taken a formal vote on the proposed concepts to date.
A discussion followed led by Chair Fischer and it was agreed by consensus that the Gladstone
redevelopment process would be deferred until the July meeting, at which time a formal
recommendation would be made by the commission.
Director Anderson reviewed the memorandum prepared by Ginny Gaynor outlining the benefits
of the possible development on the open space site and connection of the open space and
Flicek Park with the BEBO bridge structure under Frost Avenue.
It was clear by the discussion that there are varying positions by the commissioners. Staff will
provide additional background information for commission consideration at the July meeting.
4. MAPLECREST PARK BASKETBALL STATUS
Director Anderson reviewed the past history of the Maplecrest Park basketball standard and
indicated that a request was received from resident Joel Schurke requesting that the basketball
rim be reinstalled.
Mr. Schurke was present and outlined his request to have the rim reinstalled. The commission
discussed how this issue should proceed.
Following a number of options provided by staff, it was agreed that a survey be mailed to area
residents soliciting their opinion prior to taking any action. Staff indicated that survey results
would be tabulated and distributed for commission consideration at the July meeting. It was also
agreed that prior to making any changes a neighborhood meeting would be held to keep
residents informed of the process.
5. SCULPTURE POLICY
. Staff provided a brief update on the status of Legacy Village sculpture park. A proposal has
been received by John Hock, artistic director of Franconia Sculpture Park, that staff feels needs
greater consideration and review by the sculpture committee.
Director Anderson indicated that Pauline Staples will coordinate a meeting in the near future
including the three commissioners (Don Christianson, Rick Brandon, Daniel Enga) along with
four Maplewood residents.
Staff indicated that the planting is in process for Legacy Village sculpture park and that it is
hoped that the Sjodin sculpture from Ramsey County will be in place by fall of 2005.
Staff also discussed the symposium events held at the Franconia Sculpture Park.
6. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Various comments were shared by commissioners for appropriate action by staff.
7. DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Anderson indicated that the Sandy Lake soccer project will not proceed at this time
due to budget constraints. He also indicated that the C.I.P video will be shown at the July
meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
0 The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Bruce K. Anderson
Director of Parks and Recreation
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TO: Parks and
FROM: Bruce K. Anderson
DATE: July 20, 2005 for
SUBJECT: Maplecrest Park Survey Results
Introduction
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creation Commission Meeting
Maplecrest Park is a small neighborhood park located at the corner of Eldridge Avenue and Arcade
Street. Surveys were mailed to 350 property owners between Edgerton Street on the west, Keller
Lake on the east, Highway 36 on the north and Roselawn Avenue on the south. We received a total of
168 responses. Enclosed is a detailed breakdown of the survey results.
Background
Maplecrest Park was redeveloped in 1999. As part of the redevelopment process a half -court
basketball court was installed.
In 2003 we received a request including a petition from the neighbors that the basketball hoop and/or
rim be removed. This issue was forwarded to the city council and they unanimously directed staff to
take the basketball hoop down.
We received one neighborhood request to have the hoop reinstalled. At the request of the
commission, a survey was forwarded to the neighborhood and the survey results are enclosed for
your edification.
I would suggest that you take the opportunity to review the comments, which I think are possibly more
telling than the actual survey numbers themselves. Based on the survey results that had
approximately 50% requesting the rim not be reinstalled, 1/3 recommended reinstalling it, and an
additional 20% had no opinion. It is my recommendation that the rim not be installed.
I would further recommend that the backboard be removed for possible relocation at another site. I
would recommend that the blacktop surface remain as it is. We may desire to re -color coat the site
and add a hopscotch or 4 -square site to provide increased usability of the area.
Recommendation
Staff recommends that the Maplecrest Park backboard standard be removed permanently based on
the survey and past neighborhood and city council wishes. Staff further recommends that staff be
directed to pursue the financial cost and feasibility of re color -coding the blacktop surface for alternate
purposes, i.e., hopscotch, 4 -square, etc.
kph survey resuIts. maplecrest.parks-osp.mem
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To: Gladstone Neighborhood Redevelopment Task Force
From: Hoisington Koegler Group Inc.
Subject: June 16 Workshop
Date: Working Draft for Staff Review
Meeting #5 of the Gladstone Neighborhood Master Planning Task Force takes place on Thursday, June 16.
The meeting will be held at Maplewood Fire Station #2 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. The primary objective of
this meeting is torA esent the results of the financial feasibility analysis and evaluation of the redevelopment
concept. Much of the workshop involves providing Task Force members with a clear understanding of the
approach used to conduct the analysis, the results of the analysis and the implications for redevelopment in
the Gladstone Neighborhood.
The Task Force will not be asked to make any decisions about changes in land use concepts or redevelopment
plans at this meeting.
Please review the information in this memo prior to the Task Force meeting. We will highlight this
information and answer your questions at this meeting. Spending some time with the information in this
memo will help you to participate in the discussion and decision making that will occur at the meeting.
SOverview
As you review the results of the feasibility analysis, it is important to remember the basic tenants that have
guided this work. The Task Force agreed to the following tenants at the April 21 meeting:
• Redevelopment is necessary.
• A plan is needed to guide change.
• Public (city) actions are needed.
• The Plan must be feasible.
These tenants frame the challenge for the redevelopment plan. We must agree on a plan for redevelopment
of the area. Doing nothing is not an acceptable outcome. The plan must be do -able. A "paper" plan that you
like but will not Happen is the same as doing nothing. Our collective task is to find the best balance between
the desired community vision and the realities of actual redevelopment.
It is probable that everyone will find lilies and dislikes in the evolving concept plan for the Neighborhood.
Our collective challenge is to build on the strengths and minimize the weaknesses. No Task Force member
should simply give up on the process if the plan does not meet all of your expectations.
Developer Interviews
Over the course of the last several weeks, we have been presenting the project to Twin Cities developers who focus
on redevelopment and infill development of a variety of types and styles. The purpose of these conversations was to
• gauge the market realities and fiscal realities of the assumptions we have made and to gain insights into what would
make the Gladstone Redevelopment a reality. The developers we have talked to include some who do exclusively
123 North Third Street, Suite 100, Minneapolis, MN 55401-1659
Ph (612) 338-0800 Fx (612) 338-6838 www.lik.o.com
• Hoisington Koegler Group Inc.
To: Gladstone Neighborhood Redevelopment Task Force
From: Hoisington Koegler Group Inc.
Subject: June 16 Workshop
Date: Working Draft for Staff Review
Meeting #5 of the Gladstone Neighborhood Master Planning Task Force takes place on Thursday, June 16.
The meeting will be held at Maplewood Fire Station #2 from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. The primary objective of
this meeting is to 12resent the results of the financial feasibility analysis and evaluation of the redevelopment
concept. Much of the workshop involves providing Task Force members with a clear understanding of the
approach used to conduct the analysis, the results of the analysis and the implications for redevelopment in
the Gladstone Neighborhood.
The Task Force will not be asked to make any decisions about changes in land use concepts or redevelopment
plans at this meeting.
Please review the information in this memo prior to the Task Force meeting. We will highlight this
information and answer your questions at this meeting. Spending some time with the information in this
memo will help you to participate in the discussion and decision making that will occur at the meeting.
Overview
As you review the results of the feasibility analysis, it is important to remember the basic tenants that have
guided this work. The Task Force agreed to the following tenants at the April 21 meeting:
• Redevelopment is necessary.
• A plan is needed to guide change.
• Public (city) actions are needed.
• The Plan must be feasible.
These tenants frame the challenge for the redevelopment plan. We must agree on a plan for redevelopment
of the area. Doing nothing is not an acceptable outcome. The plan must be do -able. A "paper" plan that you
like but will not happen is the same as doing nothing. Our collective task is to find the best balance between
the desired community vision and the realities of actual redevelopment.
It is probable that everyone will find lilies and dislikes in the evolving concept plan for the Neighborhood.
Our collective challenge is to build on the strengths and minimize the weaknesses. No Task Force member
should simply give up on the process if the plan does not meet all of your expectations.
Developer Interviews
Over the course of the last several weeks, we have been presenting the project to Twin Cities developers who focus
on redevelopment and infill development of a variety of types and styles. The purpose of these conversations was to
• gauge the market realities and fiscal realities of the assumptions we have made and to gain insights into what would
make the Gladstone Redevelopment a reality. The developers we have tallied to include some who do exclusively
123 North Third Street, Suite 100, Minneapolis, MN 55401-1659
Ph (612) 338-0800 Fx (612) 338-6838 www.hkgi.com
Task Face #5 —June 16
Working Draft for Staff Review
Page 4 •
Stormwater Management
Any redevelopment in the Neighborhood must comply with regulations for the management and treatment
of stormwater. The consulting team has evaluated improvements needed to support the redevelopment
concept.
Parks
The concept envisions improvements to the Savanna and Flicek Park. The consulting team has worked with
city staff and the Park/Recreation and Open Space Commissions to better define the nature of these
improvements.
Power Lines
The concept assumes that overhead power lines will be buried at key locations along Frost and English. The
current plan assumes that a portion of these costs will be paid by the City using revenues from its franchise
fee.
Redevelopment Revenues
A fundamental premise of this analysis is that general revenues (specifically property taxes) of the City are
not available to pay for the costs of redevelopment. The analytical approach uses revenue resulting from
redevelopment to pay for the necessary costs. With this approach, the type and intensity of development
influences the amount of revenue.
Tax Increment Financing
The key revenue source for redevelopment in the Gladstone Neighborhood is tax increment financing (TIF).
In simple terms, the new property tax revenues produced by redevelopment can be captured and used to pay
for certain expenses required to create the development. The use of TIF in this analysis is based on the
following assumptions:
• TIF districts can be created. The ability to establish TIF districts is subject to a complicated set of
statutes. Our preliminary assessment is that sites in the Neighborhood fit the statutory criteria for
creating a series of related TIF districts. The detailed investigations needed to make the appropriate
statutory findings are beyond the scope of this planning process.
• Projected tax increment revenues are based on the property tat rate for taxes payable 2005 and
conservative assumptions about the property valuation from future development. The analysis
assumes that medium density housing produces estimated market value (EMV) (for taxation) at an
average of $315,000 per unit. The EMV per unit assumption drops to $240,000/unit for high
density housing. Retail development produces valuation at a rate of $100 per square foot.
• The analysis uses "net" tax increment revenues. Certain deductions are made before determining the
funding capacity of TIF. Ten percent (10%) of projected tax increment revenues are set aside for
city administration expense. An administrative fee of 0.36% goes to the State. A portion of the net
funding capacity is allocated for finance expense and for interim (capitalized) interest. The financial
feasibility analysis uses this net funding capacity.
• The funding capacity of TIF represents the present value of 20 years of revenue capture at an interest
rate of 7.00%. Redevelopment tax increment financing districts can operate for a ma -.,..n -num of 25
years.
0 The analysis does not include revenue from any inflation/ appreciation of property values over time
Task Force #5 —June !G
Working Draft for $uffReriern
•Page 5
This analysis does not create an entitlement for the use of tali increment financing. Each project will need to
establish justification for the need, application and amount of support from TIF.
Land Sale
Approach used in this analysis seeks to reduce the cost of land to a "market" level that will attract the desired
redevelopment. Revenue from the sale of land is used to offset redevelopment costs in each sub -area. The
assumptions are based on other recent projects and input from other development professionals. Land for
residential development is sold for an amount equal to 10% of the estimated market value. Retail land sale is
based on $4 per square foot of development site.
Special Assessments
Tax increment financing cannot be used to pay for the costs of park improvements. These costs could be
assessed to the redevelopment properties adjacent to the parks.
Results of Analysis
Initial Concept
The financial feasibility analysis began by testing the "composite concept" that has grown out of the planning
process (reviewed by Task Force at last meeting) at a low level of density. All residential development is
assumed to be medium density housing (side-by-side attached townhouse or rowhouse products) at an
average density of eight units per acre. All commercial development is assumed to be single -story buildings
occupying 30% of the lot area.
. Linder these assumptions, redevelopment is not financially feasible. This amount of neve development does
not produce sufficient revenues to cover the costs of redevelopment. None of the subareas are projected to
produce feasible projects. In total, this scenario falls over $_,000,000 short of the revenues needed to
undertake redevelopment.
Attachment B contains a summary of this analysis showing the results for each sub -area. The chart below
illustrates the projected costs, revenues and surplus or gap from the financial analysis of the redevelopment
concept at low density.
Increased Development in Cun-ent Concept
The next step in the analysis was to define a development pattern that produced a financially feasible
outcome for the entire redevelopment concept. This process followed these principles:
• Changes must be consistent with the land use pattern in the redevelopment concept. The types of
land uses in each sub -area remain the same.
• The changes must produce sufficient revenue to pay for all estimated costs of redevelopment.
• Additional housing units should be added to the core areas where street, trail and parks areas provide
a buffer to existing neighborhoods.
HKGi tested a series of development alternatives before arriving at the recommended adjusted development
pattern contained in Attachment C. This table shows the mix and intensity of development for each sub-
area. The results of the financial analysis are illustrated in the chart below.
• Some specific comments about this development concept:
Task Force #5 —June 16
Working Dioftfor Staff Redew
Page 6 •
• The concept does not include any retail development. Linder the assumptions used in this analysis,
retail development produces less revenue than housing. Retail can be added to the concept, but
more housing would be needed to offset the loss of revenues.
• All housing can be accommodated in 3 to 5 story buildings. Attachment D 'includes a series of
pictures and illustrations that show this intensity of development in other locations.
Development on the Savanna
The financial challenges of the redevelopment plan led the consulting team to explore the implications of
development on a portion of the Savanna. Several factors make this approach worthy of consideration:
• The combination of city ownership and location make the property an excellent site for an initial
redevelopment project.
• Tax increment and assessment revenues from the project can provide initial funding for
improvements to the Savanna and adjacent streets.
• Redevelopment is more cost-effective because no building demolition costs are required.
• Money received by the City from the sale of land can be used to meet other park and open space
needs in Maplewood.
The preliminary concept for development on the Savanna creates two site (adjacent to Frost and English)
totaling approximately six acres. As part of this concept, Flicek Park is converted to open space for a no net
loss of total open space. The proposed Frost Avenue bridge provides a strong and convenient physical lint: •
between the Savanna and Flicek Park.
Reduced Total Housing
The total amount of new housing required by both of these concepts exceeds the development considered in
previous planning. A final concept considered the changes needed to support a redevelopment plain based on
a total of 800 new housing units. This reduction i7 total housing results in the following concept:
Using This Analysis
There are many variables and assumptions in this analysis. Task Force members are cautioned against placing
too much weight on any single variable. The analysis does not present the absolute development pattern for
the Gladstone Neighborhood. Itis a measure of the conditions that are needed to create the private and
public setting. In using conservative assumptions, we hope that the negotiation of actual redevelopment
projects leads to changes that benefit the community. Lower than projected redevelopment and public
improvement costs require less density or shorter use of tax increment financing. Higher than projected
housing values produce the same result.
The objective facing the Task Force is agreement on a feasible redevelopment concept that becomes the basis
of the redevelopment plan. This concept will be presented to the community at the next public open house.
We «fill work with the Task Force to consider modifications to the redevelopment concepts described in this
memo. Any modifications must result in redevelopment that is financially feasible. Again, we cannot offer a •
plain that we "want" while knowing that the plan will not work. If you want changes that involve less
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Task Force #5 —June 16
Working Draft for Staff Review
Page 7
development than proposed in the adjusted concept, then you must identify trade-offs that add revenue or
reduce costs in other places. It is not possible to cut public improvement costs to reduce liabilities until the
level of development density is acceptable.
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From: Gernes, Mark [Mark.Gernes@state.mn.us]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:27 AM
To: Virginia Gaynor; Ann Hutchinson; AI.Singer@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US; bill@rwmwd.org;
brook051@tc.umn.edu; Dominic. Ramacier@state.mn.us; jack.frost@metc.state:mn.us -
Subject: RE: Gladstone Task Force Packet
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the task force meeting this Thurs. as I will be out of town, doing field
work. I also won't be able to meet with you this Wed. for the same reason.
Briefly my thoughts on the concept are I am concerned about the size of the ponding area and resulting grading
area they are proposing on the savanna. From the beginning of this I had been hoping that we could minimize
the amount of grading and "planting" that would be needed on the savanna. As Ginny and I have talked about
there are many places where small remnant populations of unique plant communities exist, particularly on the W
'/ of the savanna. I have never envisioned that the restoration of the savanna would be a "prairie planting" kind of
venture. It has taken some 30-40 + years where optimal plant species were selected and continue to flourish on
the savanna. This will likely all be lost to significant grading. If a "Prairie Resto" kind of planting is done the plant
species selection will be done by humans rather than ecological selection and it will likely look like other typical
replanted prairies.
Secondly regarding the ponding I would very much like to know how much impervious surface exist in the area
today and how much is expected in the redevelopment? What changes in storm flow routing are expected in the
redevelopment compared to current flow paths?
Though the concept of having a shallow wetland with wet meadow fringe is appealing it is difficult to restore this
kind of wetland and even more so to create such a community where one had not previously existed. If I am
understanding the proposed flow routing paths correctly it will be difficult to maintain a saturated zone, and ideally
establish groundwater flow connections. Moving the water isn't the problem as much as I question the biology
that will follow the engineering.
I also would recommend moving the Tot lot further west. I can already hear concerns about tot drownings in the
storm pond, though I do like the potential for kids to be able to see and chase frogs and other critters which might
be associated with the pond.
Mark C. Gernes
MPCA - Biological Monitoring Unit
Environmental Outcomes and Analysis Division
520 Lafayette Rd.
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 297-3363
(651) 297-8324 [fax]
-----Original Message -----
From: Virginia Gaynor [mailto:Virginia.Gaynor@ci.maplewood.mn.us]
• Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:40 AM
To: Ann Hutchinson; AI.Singer@CO. DAKOTA, MN. US; bill@rwmwd.org; brook051@tc.umn.edu;
dominic.ramacier@state.mn.us; jack.frost@metc.state.mn.us; Gernes, Mark
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Virginia Gaynor
From: Gernes, Mark [Mark.Gemes@state.mn.us]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:27 AM
To: Virginia Gaynor; Ann Hutchinson; AI.Singer@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US; bill@rwmwd.org;
brook051@tc.umn.edu; Dominic.Ramacier@state.mn.us; jack.frost@metc.state:mn.us
Subject: RE: Gladstone Task Force Packet
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the task force meeting this Thurs. as I will be out of town, doing field
work. 1 also won't be able to meet with you this Wed. for the same reason.
Briefly my thoughts on the concept are I am concerned about the size of the ponding area and resulting grading
area they are proposing on the savanna. From the beginning of this I had been hoping that we could minimize
the amount of grading and "planting" that would be needed on the savanna. As Ginny and I have talked about
there are many places where small remnant populations of unique plant communities exist, particularly on the W
'/ of the savanna. I have never envisioned that the restoration of the savanna would be a "prairie planting" kind of
venture. It has taken some 30-40 + years where optimal plant species were selected and continue to flourish on
the savanna. This will likely all be lost to significant grading. If a "Prairie Resto" kind of planting is done the plant
species selection will be done by humans rather than ecological selection and it will likely look like other typical
replanted prairies.
Secondly regarding the ponding I would very much like to know how much impervious surface exist in the area
today and how much is expected in the redevelopment? What changes in storm flow routing are expected in the
isredevelopment compared to current flow paths?
Though the concept of having a shallow wetland with wet meadow fringe is appealing it is difficult to restore this
kind of wetland and even more so to create such a community where one had not previously existed. If I am
understanding the proposed flow routing paths correctly it will be difficult to maintain a saturated zone, and ideally
establish groundwater flow connections. Moving the water isn't the problem as much as I question the biology
that will follow the engineering.
I also would recommend moving the Tot lot further west. I can already hear concerns about tot drownings in the
storm pond, though I do like the potential for kids to be able to see and chase frogs and other critters which might
be associated with the pond.
Mark C. Gemes
MPCA - Biological Monitoring Unit
Environmental Outcomes and Analysis Division
520 Lafayette Rd.
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 297-3363
(651) 297-8324 [fax]
-----Original Message -----
From: Virginia Gaynor [mailto:Virginia.Gaynor@ci.mapiewood.mn.us]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:40 AM
• To: Ann Hutchinson; AI.Singer@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US; bill@rwmwd.org; brook051@tc.umn.edu;
dominic.ramacier@state.mn.us; jack.frost@metc.state.mn.us; Gemes, Mark
Subject: FW: Gladstone Task Force Packet
7/13/2005
Page 1 of 4
Virginia Gaynor
From: Singer, Al [AI.Singer@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:47 AM
To: Virginia Gaynor; Bruce K. Anderson
Cc: Brad@hkgi.com; Ann Hutchinson; Chuck Ahl; Melinda Coleman; bill@rwmwd.org;
brook051 @tc.umn.edu; dominic.ramacier@state.mn.us; jack.frost@metc.state.mn.us
mark.gernes@pca.state.mn.us
Subject: RE: Open Space Task Force Meeting - Wed 7/13
Ginny and Bruce -
I will be at the Task Force meeting on Thursday evening. However, I don't think I can see my way clear to
being there on Wednesday afternoon.
I am responding to both the agenda items and the questions.
1. Review drawings for open space with and without development.
• I am in favor of using some of the savanna for development as
shown by HKG with provisions.
2. Chuck — explain stormwater ponding at the preserve
• Have we calculated the entire sub -watershed acreage served
by this stormwater plan? How would the city deal with current
TMDL standards without having the Savanna available? Could
this serve as the basis for creating a stormwater utility fee that
could be used for ongoing management of the system?
• I am in general favor of a combined basin, infiltration system.
As part of this system, can the stormwater be conveyed above
ground as an amenity? I don't recall hearing or seeing any
discussion about this.
• 1 believe this project has the ability to achieve much higher
water quality standards than currently exist. What is the
costtdesign difference to capture all but the largest snowmelt
and/or storm events? It would seem to me since we have an
opportunity we should strive to achieve the higher standard
because it is the right thing to do and I foresee the day when
higher standards will be imposed anyway and we could end up
saving money for future upgrade costs.
• How do we most effectively use the proposed plan to educate
citizens, residents, business owners, etc. about stormwater.
3. Discuss Mark's comments on stormwater and natural restoration, and Ron's email
7/13/2005
Page 2 of 4
With regard to Mark's comments, I am of the opinion to use
the stormwater plan to maximize the restoration (actual and
potential) of the site. I have two similar projects to draw from
Cedar Lake Parkin Minneapolis and Bruce Vento Sanctuary
in St. Paul Both sites were former railyards, level and highly
degraded. Over time of abandonment, nature does have a way
of reclaiming land and there were many people -who firmly - ---
believed that we should let nature take its course. In both of
the examples, the land was reworked and resculpted to create
some aesthetic interest as well as deal with water issues. The
jury is still out on the Vento Sanctuary because it is too early
in the process but I think in hindsight the Cedar Lake Park
project has been a real success. Clearly, we still do not have
the expertise to duplicate natural systems and processes but
we are getting better. The real key is to devote enough initial
and ongoing resources to maintain and enhance the site.
I have learned over my many years that the combination of
aesthetics and diversity (topography, vegetation, views, land
and water are what really interests people to use, enjoy and
contribute to.
I agree with his comments on the Tot Lot.
4. Bruce Anderson — discuss comments from Parks Commissioners:
a. Developing on open space
b. No net loss of open space
We have to hold firm on no net loss of Open Space. The
challenge is to define the difference between "natural open
space"
and passive park (mowed grass) at one level i.e. compare
acreage. On the other level and I would say perhaps even
more important is that sometimes the different configurations
effectively enhance the multiple values of natural areas. The
combination of the Savanna and Flicek accomplishes both
goals in my estimation
c. Loss of ball fields
• 1 think the statistics and trends speak for themselves.
d. Funds from sale of Preserve dedicated to Parks & Open Space?
• This is a challenging one especially if there is essentially a
"land trade" involving Flicek. I don't think it is as easy as just
taking proceeds from land sales of the savanna and directing
them entirely back into open space. There is the issue of
internal accounting between parks and open space, as well as
public works and parks/open space. It would seem that if
Flicek will become "open space" the land value of this acreage
should be subtracted from any land sale from the Savanna.
The problem is that the appraised value of savanna land
would be significantly higher than the Flicek land if an
7/13/2005
Page 3 of 4
appraisal based upon highest and best use were used. How is
the cost of restoring Flicek going to be calculated let alone
funded? It would seem reasonable to obtain those funds from
the sale of savanna land. The cost for savanna land used
primarily for stormwater management needs to be included
and this gets clouded if the stormwater plans are actually
paying for savanna restoration. I think we will need to devise -a -
system for classifying land for sale/trade purposes and look at -
respective improvement costs.
The concept of an eco village as Al presented it has not been strongly developed. Are we
okay with this?
• 1 would still maintain that this is not adequately being
addressed and would be a missed opportunity. I tried to
allude to that in my previous e-mail to task force members. I'm
fearful that the complexities and controversies about the other
more typical plan elements are hard enough to grasp and
come to consensus on let alone advocating for the features
and principles of a more sustainable community. One might
suggest that these issues could be dealt with after all of this
planning is done. I would disagree because minimizing the
negative environmental and social impacts of development
has to embrace and integrate inputs and outputs on all '
aspects from construction, energy, waste, etc.
Don't get me wrong, the project is still going in a positive
direction. I just want to maximize the opportunity.
Al
......**...*,. Mark's email........*...*.............,r,...
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the task force meeting this Thurs. as I will be out of town, doing
field work. I also won't be able to meet with you this Wed. for the same reason.
Briefly my thoughts on the concept are I am concerned about the size of the ponding area and resulting
grading area they are proposing on the savanna. From the beginning of this I had been hoping that we
could minimize the amount of grading and "planting" that would be needed on the savanna. As Ginny
and 1 have talked about there are many places where small remnant populations of unique plant
communities exist, particularly on the W'/ of the savanna. I have never envisioned that the restoration of
the savanna would be a "prairie planting" kind of venture. It has taken some 30-40 + years where optimal
plant species were selected and continue to flourish on the savanna. This will likely all be lost to
significant grading. If a "Prairie Resto" kind of planting is done the plant species selection will be done by
humans rather than ecological selection and it will likely look like other typical replanted prairies.
Secondly regarding the ponding I would very much like to know how much impervious surface exist in the
area today and how much is expected in the redevelopment? What changes in storm flow routing are
expected in the redevelopment compared to current flow paths?
Though the concept of having a shallow wetland with wet meadow fringe is appealing it is difficult to
restore this kind of wetland and even more so to create such a community where one had not previously
existed. If I am understanding the proposed flow routing paths correctly it will be difficult to maintain a
7/13/2005
Page 1 of 4
Bruce K. Anderson
From: Singer, Al [AI.Singer@CO.DAKOTA. MN.US]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:47 AM
To: Virginia Gaynor; Bruce K. Anderson
Cc: Brad@hkgi.com; Ann Hutchinson; Chuck Ahl; Melinda Coleman; bill@wmwd.org;
brook051@tc.umn.edu; dominic.ramacier@state.mn.us; jack. frost@metc. state. mn. us;
mark. ge rnes@pca. state. mn. us
Subject: RE: Open Space Task Force Meeting - Wed 7/13
Ginny and Bruce -
I will be at the Task Force meeting on Thursday evening. However, I don't think I can see my way clear to
being there on Wednesday afternoon.
I am responding to both the agenda items and the questions.
1. Review drawings for open space with and without development.
• 1 am in favor of using some of the savanna for development as
shown by HKG with provisions.
2. Chuck — explain stormwater ponding at the preserve
• Have we calculated the entire sub -watershed acreage served
by this stormwater plan? How would the city deal with current
TMDL standards without having the Savanna available? Could
this serve as the basis for creating a stormwater utility fee that
could be used for ongoing management of the system?
• 1 am in general favor of a combined basin, infiltration system.
As part of this system, can the stormwater be conveyed above
ground as an amenity? I don't recall hearing or seeing any
discussion about this.
• 1 believe this project has the ability to achieve much higher
water quality standards than currently exist. What is the
costidesign difference to capture all but the largest snowmelt
and/or storm events? It would seem to me since we have an
opportunity we should strive to achieve the higher standard
because it is the right thing to do and I foresee the day when
higher standards will be imposed anyway and we could end up
saving money for future upgrade costs.
• How do we most effectively use the proposed plan to educate
citizens, residents, business owners, etc. about stormwater.
0
3. Discuss Mark's comments on stormwater and natural restoration, and Ron's email
7/13/2005
Page 2 of 4
• With regard to Mark's comments, I am of the opinion to use
the stormwater plan to maximize the restoration (actual and
S potential) of the site. I have two similar projects to draw from
Cedar Lake Park in Minneapolis and Bruce Vento Sanctuary
in St. Paul. Both sites were former railyards, level and highly
degraded. Over time of abandonment, nature does have a way
_ of reclaiming land and there were many -people who firmly - -
believed that we should let nature take its course. In both of
the examples, the land was reworked and resculpted to create
some aesthetic interest as well as deal with water issues. The
jury is still out on the Vento Sanctuary because it is too early
in the process but I think in hindsight the Cedar Lake Park
project has been a real success. Clearly, we still do not have
the expertise to duplicate natural systems and processes but
we are getting better. The real key is to devote enough initial
and ongoing resources to maintain and enhance the site.
I have learned over my many years -that the combination of
aesthetics and diversity (topography, vegetation, views, land
and water are what really interests people to use, enjoy and
contribute to.
agree with his comments on the Tot Lot.
4. Bruce Anderson — discuss comments from Parks Commissioners:
a. Developing on open space
b. No net loss of open space
• We have to hold firm on no net loss of Open Space. The
challenge is to define the difference between "natural open
space"
and passive park (mowed grass) at one level i.e. compare
acreage. On the other level and I would say perhaps even
more important is that sometimes the different configurations
effectively enhance the multiple values of natural areas. The
combination of the Savanna and Flicek accomplishes both
goals in my estimation
c. Loss of ball fields
• I think the statistics and trends speak for themselves.
d. Funds from sale of Preserve dedicated to Parks & Open Space?
• This is a challenging one especially if there is essentially a
"land trade" involving Flicek. I don't think it is as easy as just
taking proceeds from land sales of the savanna and directing
them entirely back into open space. There is the issue of
internal accounting between parks and open space, as well as
public works and parks/open space. It would seem that if
Flicek will become "open space" the land value of this acreage
should be subtracted from any land sale from the Savanna.
• The problem is that the appraised value of savanna land
would be significantly higher than the Flicek land if an
7/13/2005
Page 3 of 4
appraisal based upon highest and best use were used. How is
the cost of restoring Flicek going to be calculated let alone
funded? It would seem reasonable to obtain those funds from
the sale of savanna land. The cost for savanna land used
primarily for stormwater management needs to be included
and this gets clouded if the stormwater plans are actually
paying for savanna restoration. I think we will need to devise a
system for classifying land for sale/trade purposes and look at
respective improvement costs.
The concept of an eco -village as Al presented it has not been strongly developed. Are we
okay with this?
1 would still maintain that this is not adequately being
addressed and would be a missed opportunity. I tried to
allude to that in my previous e-mail to task force members. I'm
fearful that the complexities and controversies about the other
more typical plan elements are hard enough to grasp and
come to consensus on let alone advocating for the features
and principles of a more sustainable community. One might
suggest that these issues could be dealt with after all of this
planning is done. I would disagree because minimizing the
negative environmental and social impacts of development
has to embrace and integrate inputs and outputs on all
aspects from construction, energy, waste, etc.
Don't get me wrong, the project is still going in a positive
direction. I just want to maximize the opportunity.
Al
************ Mark's email
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the task force meeting this Thurs. as I will be out of town, doing
field work. I also won't be able to meet with you this Wed. for the same reason.
Briefly my thoughts on the concept are I am concerned about the size of the ponding area and resulting
grading area they are proposing on the savanna. From the beginning of this I had been hoping that we
could minimize the amount of grading and "planting" that would be needed on the savanna. As Ginny
and I have talked about there are many places where small remnant populations of unique plant
communities exist, particularly on the W'h of the savanna. I have never envisioned that the restoration of
the savanna would be a "prairie planting" kind of venture. It has taken some 30-40 + years where optimal
plant species were selected and continue to flourish on the savanna. This will likely all be lost to
significant grading. If a "Prairie Resto" kind of planting is done the plant species selection will be done by
humans rather than ecological selection and it will likely look like other typical replanted prairies.
Secondly regarding the ponding I would very much like to know how much impervious surface exist in the
area today and how much is expected in the redevelopment? What changes in storm flow routing are
expected in the redevelopment compared to current flow paths?
Though the concept of having a shallow wetland with wet meadow fringe is appealing it is difficult to
restore this kind of wetland and even more so to create such a community where one had not previously
existed. If I am understanding the proposed flow routing paths correctly it will be difficult to maintain a
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saturated zone, and ideally establish ground water flow connections. Moving the water isn't the problem
as much as I question the biology that will follow the engineering.
i I also would recommend moving the Tot lot further west. I can already hear concerns about tot drownings
in the storm pond, though I do like the potential for kids to be able to see and chase frogs and other
critters which might be associated with the pond.
0
***************** Ron s email
Below is Ron's response to our question on how much land is required for stormwater if we only have
infiltration ponds and not a pond with clay liner.
Chuck,
Yes. We evaluated this approach generally quite awhile back. Bottom line is that the "system" can work
either way - wet pond or dry/infiltration basin. The treatment pond surface area does not have to change,
but there is a trade-off. As we've discussed all along, there's really two separate, but related issues:
Flood storage: Conceptually, the shift from open water to dry pond areas has very little impact on the
size of the ponds for flood storage. If the open water pond (from the HKGI concept of 6-1-05) were
changed to a dry/infiltration pond, it would reduce our modeled extreme event high water level, but not
significantly (less than a foot). In reality, the areas we show as available for the extreme event detention
are already outside the areas that would be designated as storm water pond.
Water Quality Volume: From a regulatory standpoint, what we're really trying to address is our best
guess at what the non -degradation requirements will require along with reducing phosphorus discharges
to Round and Phalen. To do this we've established a two-phase approach: 1. meet the City Standards
with a regional system; and 2. individual projects must install "enhanced" practices to infiltrate 1 inch of
runoff. Same approach as the MMATI area.
The City's engineering standards (section 5.6) require 85% TSS and 60% TP removal for a wet detention
basin. We can get the entire treatment volume needed by a wet pond, in part because we can go deeper
(10+ feet) and keep the normal water level surface constant. For a dry pond in the same area - and
assuming it is an infiltration basin - the entire treatment volume can still be designed into the system, but
it becomes more of an issue for aesthetics (how deep, what plants, etc.), operation (how long will it stay
wet after a rainfall) and maintenance.
If the regional system in the Savanna goes to a dry/infiltration basin, the trade off may come down to
accepting a lower level of "enhanced" treatment overall. That is, the 1 -inch requirement would still apply
to individual projects, but a portion of the 1 -inch would be needed, in part, to meet the 85%/60% removal
levels. Tough to say how much without some additional analysis - but the system overall could still be
designed to have treatment somewhat above the 85%/60% levels.
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Bruce K. Anderson
From: Virginia Gaynor
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 3:10 PM
To: Ann Hutchinson; Bruce K. Anderson; Chuck Ahl; Melinda Coleman;
A[.Singer@CO.DAKOTA. MN.US; bill@rwmwd.org; brook05l@tc.umn.edu;
dominic.ramacier@state.mn.us; jack. frost@ metc. state. m n. us; mark.gernes@pca.state.mn.us
Cc: 'Brad@hkgi.com'
Subject: Open Space Task Force Meeting - Wed 7/13
Hi,
This is to confirm our meeting:
Wed, 7/13
4:00-6:00 p.m.
City Hall - Maplewood Room
The following members can attend: Jack, Dominick, Bill, Char (probably)
Staff: Ann, Ginny, Bruce, Chuck
Consultants: We don't need anyone to attend if Chuck can bring and present the
stormwater drawings. Brad is going to send me the acreage for active parkland.
Mark and Al are not able to attend due to work or other commitments. We will miss their input. Mark has emailed
comments to OTF members so we can discuss those (repeated below for Bruce and Chuck). Al, if you have a .
chance, please call or email to let us know your thoughts — specifically answers to the questions below.
Also, below is memo from Ron, Consulting Engineer, in response to earlier questions we sent him earlier.
Suggested Agenda
1. Review drawings for open space with and without development
2. Chuck — explain stormwater ponding at the preserve
3. Discuss Mark's comments on stormwater and natural restoration, and Ron's email
4. Bruce Anderson — discuss comments from Parks Commissioners:
a. Developing on open space
b. No net loss of open space
c. Loss of ball fields
d. Funds from sale of Preserve dedicated to Parks & Open Space?
e. Recreational needs for neighborhood
f. Other
5. General discussion
Questions we hope to answer during our session:
1. Do we support the stormwater ponding plan?
a. Having both open water and wetland?
b. Extensive grading of site?
2. Do we support developing on the preserve with no net loss of acres?
a. If yes, should funds go only to Preserve Program? .
b. How many acres (of 24 -acre site) should be restored to native plantings and how many should
be in active park use (lawn, tot lot, plaza, picnic, etc.)?
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3. The concept of an eco -village as Al presented it has not been strongly developed. Are we okay with
. this?
See you Wednesday,
Ginny
******* Mark's email
Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the task force meeting this Thurs. as I will be out of town, doing field
work. I also won't be able to meet with you this Wed. for the same reason.
Briefly my thoughts on the concept are I am concerned about the size of the ponding area and resulting grading
area they are proposing on the savanna. From the beginning of this I had been hoping that we could minimize
the amount of grading and "planting" that would be needed on the savanna. As Ginny and I have talked about
there are many places where small remnant populations of unique plant communities exist, particularly on the W
of the savanna. I have never envisioned that the restoration of the savanna would be a "prairie planting" kind of
venture. It has taken some 30-40 +years where optimal plant species were selected and continue to flourish on
the savanna. This will likely all be lost to significant grading. If a "Prairie Resto" kind of planting is done the plant
species selection will be done by humans rather than ecological selection and it will likely look like other typical
replanted prairies.
Secondly regarding the ponding I would very much like to know how much impervious surface exist in the area
today and how much is expected in the redevelopment? What changes in storm flow routing are expected in the
redevelopment compared to current flow paths?
Though the concept of having a shallow wetland with wet meadow fringe is appealing it is difficult to restore this
kind of wetland and even more so to create such a community where one had not previously existed. If I am
• understanding the proposed flow routing paths correctly it will be difficult to maintain a saturated zone, and ideally
establish ground water flow connections. Moving the water isn't the problem as much as I question the biology
that will follow the engineering.
I also would recommend moving the Tot lot further west. I can already hear concerns about tot drownings in the
storm pond, though I do like the potential for kids to be able to see and chase frogs and other critters which might
be associated with the pond.
Ron's email
Below is Ron's response to our question on how much land is required for stormwater if we only have infiltration
ponds and not a pond with clay liner.
Chuck,
Yes. We evaluated this approach generally quite a while back. Bottom line is that the "system" can work either
way - wet pond or dry/infiltration basin. The treatment pond surface area does not have to change, but there is a
trade-off. As we've discussed all along, there's really two separate, but related issues:
Flood storage: Conceptually, the shift from open water to dry pond areas has very little impact on the size of the
ponds for flood storage. If the open water pond (from the HKGI concept of 6-1-05) were changed to a
dry/infiltration pond, it would reduce our modeled extreme event high water level, but not significantly (less than a
foot). In reality, the areas we show as available for the extreme event detention are already outside the areas that
would be designated as storm water pond.
Water Quality Volume: From a regulatory standpoint, what we're really trying to address is our best guess at what
the non -degradation requirements will require along with reducing phosphorus discharges to Round and Phalen.
To do this we've established a two-phase approach: 1. meet the City Standards with a regional system; and 2.
individual projects must install "enhanced" practices to infiltrate 1 inch of runoff. Same approach as the MMATI
7/11/2005
Page 3 of 3
area.
The City's engineering standards (section 5.6) require 85% TSS and 60% TP removal for a wet detention basin.
We can get the entire treatment volume needed by a wet pond, in part because we can go deeper (10+ feet) and
keep the normal water level surface constant. For a dry pond in the same area - and assuming it is an infiltration
basin - the entire treatment volume can still be designed into the system, but it becomes more of an issue for
aesthetics (how deep, what plants, etc.), operation (how long will it stay wet after a rainfall) and maintenance.
If the regional system in the Savanna goes to a dry/infiltration basin, the trade off may come down to accepting a
lower level of "enhanced" treatment overall. That is, the 1 -inch requirement would still apply to individual projects,
but a portion of the 1 -inch would be needed, in part, to meet the 85%/60% removal levels. Tough to say how
much without some additional analysis - but the system overall could still be designed to have treatment
somewhat above the 85%/60% levels.
Bruce K. Anderson
From:
Dominic. Ramacier@state.mn.us
ent:
OTO:
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:58 PM
Virginia Gaynor; Bruce K. Anderson
Cc:
Brad@hkgi.com; Ann Hutchinson; Chuck Ahl; Melinda Coleman; bill@rwmwd.org; brook051
@tc.umn.edu; jack. frost@metc. state. m n. us; Mark.Gernes@state.mn.us
Subject:
RE: Open Space Task Force Meeting - Wed 7/13
The main area of concern I have is the proceeds from the sale of any savanna land. This
land was purchased with Open Space funds, and any proceeds from the sale should go
directly toward the Open Space program.
As well, we need to guarantee there is no net loss of open space acreage.
We are accommodating this development project just by considering the sale of open space
property. We could "refuse" to sell any open space property, and force the development to
go around us.
Any proceeds from the sale of open space land should go into a dedicated fund to maintain
or restore open space parcels, or towards purchasing additional open space property, or
towards retiring the bonds sold to raise the $5 million.
As far as the cost of developing the storm water system in the savanna, and the cost of
restoring Flicek park, these should be looked upon as normal costs of development and
should be paid for by the developer.
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Bruce K. Anderson
From: Singer, AI [AI.Singer@CO. DAKOTA. MN. US]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Brad
Cc: Chuck Ahl; Melinda Coleman; Bruce K. Anderson; Rusty; Bruce; jon.horn@kimley-horn.com; Betty
Schultz; Charlie Godbout; Christopher Hampl; Dale Trippen; Dan Fischer; David Gageby; Del
Benjamin; Erika Donner; Jan Steiner McGovern; Joe O'Brien; Joy Tkachuck; Kim Schmidt; Larry
Johnson; Linda Olson; Marvin Koppen; Al Olson; Peter Fischer; Roxanne Opse; Sue Broin; Wayne
Sachi; Will Rossbach
Subject: RE: Galdstone Project communication
Brad -
Thanks for sending the recent Memo on Gladstone.
Here are some of my general comments.
Common Objectives
• I'm not sure what you mean by "strong and sustainable place" is. Perhaps something like.......
Make Gladstone an innovative and attractive place that harmoniously integrates housing,
neighborhood -oriented businesses, open space, and transportation infrastructure
• Emphasize and utilize sustainability principles in all aspects of planning, design, and •
construction.
Enhance the ecological, aesthetic, and functional use of the existing Savanna
• Invest in the public improvements needed to serve the neighborhood residents and businesses
while attracting new development
Make Gladstone more pedestrian -friendly (it is more than just being "walkable"
• Implement a Plan that uses market incentives and other non -city funding to minimize general city
property taxes and/or assessments
Community Plan
I'm pleased that you addressed this important issue up front and in the "tone" .
I would add that the trails are community/regional assets.
Perhaps it would be useful to refrain from calling this the Gladstone Neighborhood project. By doing so it
reinforces the more neighborhood -centered design elements and concerns. Clearly this project has to
work for local residents but it has broader implications than that. How about we just call it Gladstone.
Maybe we could even integrate "gladstones" into the design concept
Long-term Vision
1 would suggest adding another section that emphasizes the long-term nature of this Ian. The tendenc •
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will be to look at what is happening today or tomorrow and make decisions based on this approach. It is
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critical that we look out 30 years or more and make sure that we are not precluding opportunities.
• The Plan Must Work
How about the "Plan Must be Inspiring but Real". I also don't think it is accurate to say that no
improvements will be made to streets, the savanna, etc. Nor is it necessarily true that there are no city
resources for these improvements. This is about priorities and creatively leveraging other resources to
meet multiple goals.
Assets of Current Concept
I think it is misleading to say the community derives no benefit from the Savanna's current use. Clearly
they already do. However, its ecological, recreational, aesthetic, historical, and economic potential is not
being realized. I think it is also a little presumptuous to state that the current concept "solves" each of the
problems. It does goes a long way toward addressing and improving the issues.
I believe we are limiting our thinking and ultimate results if everything is premised on no costs to residents
and taxpayers. Certainly there are no cash reserves just sitting around waiting to be used. On the other
hand, if an inspiring through practical plan emerges with consensus, I don't automatically exclude that
some city resources may be necessary to jump start the project or otherwise invest in it.
Other
How are we incorporating the many existing residential structures and yards in the overall plan. Maybe
there is a way to organize Gladstone volunteers in a way to help seniors take care of their homes and
yards. Perhaps, a revolving low-interest loan fund could be created to assist homeowners and
businesses. I'm sure there are many other creative and proven ideas that have been implemented in
other areas that could help augment this important aspect of the project.
I hope that these comments bring benefits to the process and plan, or otherwise stimulates additional
thinking and comments.
Al Singer
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Parks and Recreation Commission
FROM: Bruce K. Anderson, Director of Parks and Recreation
DATE: July 21, 2005 for the July 25 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
SUBJECT: Park Construction Update
Introduction
The past three months has been a busy period for neighborhood park construction and
reconstruction within the city park system. There are four major park projects currently
underway in some form. The projects include Sterling Oaks Park, phase two of Legacy Village
sculpture garden, Applewood phase one and Priory phase one.
Background
During the past year the parks and recreation commission conducted a series of neighborhood
park planning meetings for each of the four neighborhood park projects. The city council has
adopted the final master plan for each of the sites and park construction to date ranges from
completion to plans and specifications in progress. The following is a recap of each of the
projects:
1. Sterling Oaks Park
Sterling Oaks Park construction is currently approximately 80% completed. The bid was
awarded to Hoffman & McNamara and approved by the city council in late May and
construction began in late June. It is anticipated that the project will be completed by
August 1. The one item that has not been completed is the selection and installation of
playground equipment. We are currently starting the floating boardwalk construction and
hope to have the trail corridor connecting Nebraska Park and the neighborhood as well as
the Prior open space completed by August 1. The response from the neighborhood has
been extremely positive.
2. Applewood Park
The final plans and specifications have been completed and we are scheduled for a bid
opening on Monday, August 1. Staff will prepare a memorandum with a contract
recommendation for city council consideration on Monday, August 8, 2005. It is hoped that
this project will begin within two weeks and the majority of construction will be completed by
October 1 pending favorable weather conditions. One of the most unique features of this
park is the proposed picnic shelter structure to be developed with "concrete" trees on each
corner. I have included a -copy for your review and edification. - - - - __ - _
3. Legacy Village Sculpture Park
• The final landscaping was completed for this site on July 1. The plants and materials have a
one-year guarantee and there are a number of trees and shrubs that will need to be
replaced. The city has a contract with an outside firm to provide the maintenance and
watering for this site as it requires a more intense level than other park sites.
Staff will be scheduling a meeting with the sculpture committee within the next two weeks to
begin reviewing John Hock's proposed concept for sculptures at the site.
4. Priory Neighborhood Preserve
We are completing this project in phases. We awarded the construction of three 30- to 80
foot bridge sections that will be installed by BridgeCo in the next three to five weeks. In
addition, we are working with Barr Engineering to finalize the plans and specifications for
trail corridors at the site and hope to award that yet this fall. The entryway will be delayed
until the spring of 2006.
In addition to these four projects we are also finalizing Afton Heights Park and redoing some
drainage issues at that site, receiving bid proposals for playground equipment at Maplecrest
Park, and have purchased a new climber called Mobius which will be the centerpiece for the
new park/tot lot at Legacy Village in the spring of 2006.
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MEMORANDUM
• TO: Parks and Recreation Commission
Richard Fursman, City Manager
FROM: Bruce K. Anderson, Director of Parks and Recreation
DATE: July 21, 2005 for the July 25 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
SUBJECT: Monthly Update—June 2005
The following items are provided to the City Manager and Parks and Recreation Commission to
provide an overview of our day-to-day operations. The items are informational and not intended
for formal City Council or Parks and Recreation Commission action.
1. Sandy Lake Soccer Complex
The city received a letter from Robert Bierscheid, superintendent of St. Paul Parks and
Recreation Department, on Thursday, July 21 indicating that the Sandy Lake soccer
complex would not be proceeding. The estimated cost to complete the project is $10 million
plus three years for the material to settle. i am currently negotiating with the waterworks
manager to determine the future of this site. The water works is indicating that there has
been a change of thought and they might want to keep the property in reserve for future
water works expansion. I have indicated to them that this is not the understanding of the
abutting property owners and that the sooner the final disposition of the property is
determined, the more beneficial it will become.
2. Basketball Complex
As part of the Sandy Lake discussion, I was informed by the city of St. Paul that the
basketball complex is alive and well. It appears that St. Paul is facing the same issues that
the city of Maplewood is facing regarding basketball play in neighborhood parks. I am afraid
that the neighborhood park basketball hoop may be going the way of the dinosaur.
The city of St. Paul is currently looking at constructing at least 20 basketball courts at the
Rice and Arlington park. This would be a great location to serve the east side of St. Paul and
Maplewood residents in particular. The concept is not unlike what we discussed a year ago
whereby they would have the site supervised during operational hours and would be
potentially co -managed by the city of St. Paul police department and parks and recreation
department. I think the concept of a mega basketball complex is excellent and commend the
commission for their foresight. I will continue to pursue this plan on behalf of the commission
and city of Maplewood in the coming months and hopefully, not years.
3. 2006 Budget
preparation stage and will be presented to the city council in
The 2006 budget is in its final
the coming weeks. The city council gave the city manager and department heads a very
clear directive that the projected increase for the 2006 residential taxpayers could not
exceed five percent. Given the fact that the union COLA raises had been predetermined at
three percent and our health benefits cost are going up between 19-23%, this was indeed a
challenge. Staff has met that challenge and I am pleased to say that we were able to do this
with only the reduction of one part-time employee on a citywide basis. I have not seen the
final figures, but I would estimate that our department will see a 1 '/2 to 2 percent increase
for 2006.
One of the major budget considerations was a significant increase ($50,000) for the
operation, utility and maintenance costs of Edgerton and Carver •
9 gyms. When the original
joint powers agreement was prepared on behalf of the city and school districts 622 and 623,
it was agreed that the first ten years of maintenance and utility costs would be borne by the
school districts. It has now been ten years since those facilities opened and the city will now
share in a percentage cost for the maintenance and upkeep of those facilities. The final
amount is yet to be determined, but at this time is estimated to be $50,000 total annual
payment for the two school districts.
4. Capital Improvement Plan
Staff will be reviewing the 2006-2010 Capital Improvement Plan with the parks and
recreation commission on Monday evening. The majority of projects will be funded through
the park dedication fund with some monies potentially allocated from bonding sources for
the Legacy Village tot lot area.
One of the projects I'm most interested in pursuing is the expansion of the fitness center at
the Maplewood Community Center. The fitness center is one of the most heavily used sites
at the center and fitness space has remained a crunch even though we have doubled the
facility from its original size.
The city council has requested that each of the C.I.P. projects be approved by the city
council prior to going out to bid.
5. Silver Lake Milfoil
I attended a lengthy community meeting on the milfoil and curly weed pond problem at
Silver Lake. As you are aware, our department manages Joy Park which has approximately
1,500 feet of lakeshore on the north side of Silver Lake. The milfoil and curly weed pond •
problem has become significant at Silver Lake. It is my understanding that there are patches
of milfoil that are not navigable by boat due to the thickness of the weeds. The water clarity
is very good at Silver Lake and so the community group is proceeding cautiously to make
sure that the cure is not worse than the disease. What I mean by that is that extensive use
of chemicals might well eliminate some of the good plant material and more importantly,
some of the fish and other aquatic wildlife. I will continue to follow this process in the coming
weeks and months ahead. The city and our department is obviously a significant
stakeholder in this process.
6. Preconstruction Meeting
Staff attended a preconstruction meeting for Applewood on Thursday, July 21. There
currently are four plan holders and we are scheduled to open the bids for Applewood Park
on Monday, August 1.
7. Sculptures Installed
Staff has installed three bronze sculptures at Legacy Village sculpture park. These are
sculptures of young children playing and set a nice tone for the front of the park. In addition,
I will be attending along with Pauline Staples a tour of other public sculpture gardens around
the region on Thursday, July 28.
8. Online Registration
Our department will be having online registration available for residents effective August 1.
This has been a major undertaking the past six months and it is our hope that 25% of
registrations will be accommodated online within the next two years.
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9. July 4
The annual July 4 celebration (30 -plus years) coordinated by the parks and recreation
department was once again successful in 2005. The event has been significantly scaled
down due to budget constraints in the last ten years, but the fireworks remain popular with
my guess of 4,000 to 8,000 people at Hazelwood Park and an equal number to that at the
Maplewood Mall parking lot and surround neighborhoods. Personally I did not think the
fireworks display was as good this year as it has been in previous years. We have not
increased the budget for fireworks over the last six years. The city currently pays $10,000 for
a 20- to 25 -minute show.
10. Chief Building Engineer
chief building engineer which is filling a position that has
The city is in the process of hiring a
been vacated. I was involved in the interview process as this position will be responsible for
providing HVAC oversight at the community center as well as city hall and other campus
facilities.
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