HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/02/20011. Call to Order
MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, January 2, 2001, 7:00 PM
City Hall Council Chambers
1830 County Road B East
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Agenda
Approval of Minutes
a. December 18, 2000
5. Unfinished Business
None
New Business
a. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall Conditional Use Permit (925 Century Avenue North)
b. 2000Annual Report
7. Visitor Presentations
Commission Presentations
a. January 8 Council Meeting: Mr. Frost
b. January 22 Council Meeting: Mr. Ahlness
c. February 12 Council Meeting: Mr. Trippler
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Staff Presentations
a. Note: January 15, 2001 meeting rescheduled to Wednesday, January 17, 2001
10. Adjournment
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IV.
MINUTES OF THE MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
1830 COUNTY ROAD B EAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
MONDAY, JANUARY 02, 2001
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Commissioner Lorraine Fischer
Commissioner Jack Frost
Commissioner Matt Ledvina
Commissioner Paul Mueller
Commissioner Gary Pearson
Commissioner William Rossbach
Commissioner Dale Trippler
Commissioner Eric Ahlness
Commissioner Mary Dierich
Present
Present
Absent
Present
Present
Absent
Present
Present
Absent
Staff Present:
Ken Roberts, Associate Planner
Chris Cavett, Acting City Engineer
Recording Secretary:
Lori Hansen
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Pearson moved approval of the agenda, as submitted.
Commissioner Frost seconded. Ayes-All
The motion passed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 18, 2001:
Chairperson Fischer noted under the December 11th Council Meeting, staff updated the
commission on the sign condition with Affordable Auto. Staff also announced the city council
election after Ms. Fischer discussed the current status of the public safety dispatching.
Ms. Fischer also asked that Mr. Thompson be added to item C under staff presentations. His
term also expired on the 31 st of December.
Commission Frost moved approval of the revised minutes of December 18, 2000 as amended.
Commissioner Pearson seconded the motion. Ayes-All
The motion passed.
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V. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall--Conditional Use Permit--(925 Century Avenue North).
Ken Roberts gave the staff report for the city. Gil Shipshock, of the Mounds Park/Oakdale
Jehovah's kingdom Hall, is proposing an expansion of the Kingdom Hall at 925 Century Avenue
North. They will be building a 1,120-square-foot addition onto the west end of the existing
building. They would also be building a 24 x 24 foot two-car garage to replace the small shed on
the property, enlarge the parking lot by adding 17 more spaces south of the existing parking lot,
and close the southerly driveway into the site.
The applicant is requesting that the city council approve a conditional use permit for the church
expansion. Staff does not feel the proposed church and parking lot expansion would cause any
negative effect for the neighbors as long as the precautions noted in the conditions are taken.
The applicant is proposing to replace their parking lot lights with downward-cast fixtures. This
type of fixture would eliminate light overspill onto neighbors' properties.
Neighbors to the south of the proposed property are concerned with storm water and storm water
run off, and that the adjacent parking lot could cause flooding and create drainage concerns.
Chris Cavett, the Acting City Engineer, is confident that if the applicant makes the recommended
revisions to the plans and provides all the information he has outlined, there should be no
negative effect on the neighbors to the south by storm water run-off.
With the parking lot expansion, the applicant has proposed to add trees adjacent to the property
line to provide screening. The trees alone will not meet the city screening requirement of an 80%
opaque screening. Therefore, staff is recommending that a screening fence be added so that the
screening requirement is met and that there will not be headlight glare shining onto the neighbors
to the south.
Mr. Frost asked about the resident at 2404 Harvester who had the concern of headlight glare.
Staff felt the 80% screening requirement would alleviate this concern. Also, in the conditions it
requires that the applicant review with staff the need for additional screening on the north side of
the parking lot for this home.
Gil Shipshock, Chairman of the Building Committee for Jehovah's Witness, was present for the
applicant.
Mr. Mueller was concerned with the site lights that were on all night long shining in the neighbor's
windows. The applicant responded in saying they are switching to a shoebox type fixture
therefore the lighting is controlled and will not flow over into the neighbors lots, and the lights will
also be put on timers so they will be shutting off in the evening. Regarding the headlight concern
for the resident at 2404 Harvester, the revised plans will create one-way traffic flow which will
redirect the swing of vehicle lights away from the neighbors.
Mr. Trippler wanted to know how much activity was in the evening hours as opposed to during the
day? Mr. Shipshock responded in saying that there are meetings on Tuesday and Thursday
evenings. All the other activity is during the day, generally on Saturdays and Sundays.
Jerry Hicks was present representing his daughter and her husband who live at 2707 Brand
Avenue East. He read a letter to the commission addressing their concerns with the proposed
expansion of Jehovah's Witness.
The letter gave a brief history of the property at 2707 Brand Avenue East. It included the history
of water problems in the basement of the property, and the problems with leaking since his
daughter purchased the property last spring.
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Mr. Hicks and his family did not feel the proposal is the right site for a "rain garden". They feel the
rain garden will fill up and when the water percolates into the ground, will flow toward the
basement of all the homes between the church and the standing water a few hundred feet away.
They also feel the snow accumulation will lead to other problems and that the church should be
required to haul the snow way within three days of a snowfall.
In summary, they stated: "Now is the time to correct a problem that was created when this
parking lot was originally installed. With the expansion, it will only get worse and the homeowners
are the ones that will have a problem. This church should not be treated any differently than your
neighborhood business nor should the residents have any less protection by the city from possible
damage by runoff. Have the church protect the residents by directing the water to the center of
the parking lot and be drained to a storm sever. Possibly have them contour the lot so all runoff
will go down their driveway toward Century and then into the ditch. Have the snow removed after
a significant snowfall."
Mr. Pearson asked if a "truth in housing" was available to the home owner before they bought
their house, and Mr. Hicks said it was. He stated with the history of the home and the price they
were asking, it was a good buy.
Mr. Cavett stated the character of the property is changing by a very small percentage. Right now
100% of a given area is draining to the south and the proposal is going to capture 75% of that
runoff. Eighty five percent of all rainfall events are less than ½ inch. Most rainfalls will be
captured and absorbed into the ground. Mr. Cavett felt this proposal actually improves the
drainage situation for the neighbors to the south.
Mr. Cavett also noted two years ago the city completed a project in that neighborhood where a
sixteen foot boring was done directly in front of the property line at 2707 Brand Avenue. At that
time there was no ground water observed in the boring, which is way below that basement level of
a home. A copy of the boring log was provided for Mr. Hicks.
The city engineering staff feels wet basement problems are typically caused by an issue with
landscaping or grading. There are several things that can be done in the immediate area of the
home that can help the infiltration of water around the basement foundation.
Angela Stafholt, 2707 Brand Avenue East, reiterated the concerns they have regarding the
drainage of Kingdom Hall property. They realize they are at the bottom of a hill and naturally
water flows down the hill. They are very concerned with piles of snow in their backyard, and what
is going to happen when it melts. They felt even if there is a berm built it will not help the melting
of snow, and would like to see the snow hauled away. They are not disputing the expansion of
Kingdom Hall, but they are looking at this as an opportunity to correct a current water problem that
will and can get worse with the adding of the blacktop.
Mr. Trippler asked if the city of Maplewood has a position on snow removal for businesses and
churches. Mr. Roberts stated they do not. Ms. Fischer added "until they would lose required
parking spaces that were necessary for their permit". Staff responded in saying technically that
was a possibility.
Mr. Cavett noted the city and the watershed district's philosophy is to contain as much flow as
possible on site, and encourage stormwater infiltration. The idea is to not pipe the water and ship
it down stream. Once that happens, it becomes someone elses problem. With a proposal what
needs to be looked at is: what is the existing condition, what is the proposal, and what impact will
there be on the adjacent properties? The engineering staff feels what is proposed seems to be a
better management from what is there now.
Mr. Frost noted that he trusts the city engineer's opinion about this proposal for the storm water
runoff in that it is going to be a better proposition than what is now there.
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Mr. Frost moved the planning commission to adopt the resolution to approve a conditional use
permit for the Mounds Park/Oakdale Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall building and parking lot
expansion proposal at 925 Century Avenue North. Approval is based on the findings required by
the code and subject to:
1. All construction, renovations and improvements shall follow the site plan approved by the
city. The director of community development may approve minor changes.
2. The proposed use must be substantially started within one year of council approval or the
permit shall become null and void. The council may extend this deadline for one year.
3. The city council shall review this permit in one year.
4. Site lights shall only be used when needed at night for services or other church functions.
They shall not be on all night.
Ayes-5 (Fischer, Frost, Mueller, Trippler,
Ahlness)
Nays-1 (Pearson)
Mr. Pearson stated he was uncomfortable approving a proposal that would be adding impervious
surface that could be drained away from adjoining neighbors, but was not.
Motion carries.
This proposal will go the city council on January 22nd.
B. Planning Commission's 2000 Annual Report.
Mr. Roberts gave the staff report for the city. The city code requires that the planning commission
prepare an annual report each year. This report is to include the commission's activities in the
past year and the major projects scheduled for the new year.
Mr. Trippler asked what the status of the Carpet Court proposal was. Staff responded in saying
the acquisition of more property fell through and they are working on revised project plans.
Mr. Mueller asked if Amusement City was approved for the Pizza Parlor. Staff will double check if
the commission approved this proposal.
Ms. Fischer asked that Mike Seeber and Milo Thompson's expiration dates of their terms be
added to the report.
The commission would like to see a study be completed on the area west of Maplewood Mall
(including the Hajicek property) for land use and transportation issues.
Another 2001 activity the commission would like to add is a study and consideration of possible
revisions to the city's telecommunications ordinance and meet with telecommunications providers
to better coordinate the installation of telecommunications equipment (including monopoles) in
Maplewood.
Mr. Trippler moved the planning commission to approve the planning commission's 2000 annual
report as amended.
Mr. Frost seconded. Ayes-All
Motion carries.
VII. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
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VIII.
IX.
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
a. January 8 Council Meeting: Mr. Frost will attend.
b. January 22 Council Meeting: Mr. Ahlness will attend.
c. February 12 Council Meeting: Mr. Trippler will attend.
STAFF PRESENTATIONS
The January 15, 2001 meeting was rescheduled to Wednesday, January 17, 2001.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:36 p.m.