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AGENDA
MAPLEWOOD HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
NOVEMBER 10, 1998
7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL
MAPLEWOOD ROOM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes
June 10, 1997
4. Approval of Agenda
5. Communications
Commissioner Appreciation Dinner - December 2, 1998
6. Unfinished Business
7. New Business
a. Truth-in-Housing Ordinance and Forms
b. 1998 Housing Plan Update
8. Date of Next Meeting
December 8, 1998
9. Adjournment
c:HRAAGEND.MEM
MINUTES OF THE
MAPLEWOOD HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
NOVEMBER 10, 1998
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
HRA Commissioners: Lorraine Fischer, Tom Connelly, Joe O'Brien, Gary Pearson
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 10, 1997
Commissioner O'Brien moved approval of the minutes of June 10, 1997, as submitted.
Commissioner Connelly seconded.
Ayes-all
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Pearson moved approval of the agenda as submitted.
Commissioner Connelly seconded.
Ayes-all
5. COMMUNICATIONS
Ken Roberts, associate planner, said he heard that on Wednesday, December 2nd, there was
going to be a commissioner appreciation dinner and evening at the Community Center starting
around 6:00-6:30 p.m.
6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Commissioner Fischer asked staff about the 1998 truth-in-housing compliance report.
Commissioner Fischer said she thought that compliance was better this year than last year.
Staff said they thought the percentage was around 60-70%.
7. NEW BUSINESS
A. Truth-in-Housing Ordinance and Forms
Ken Roberts, associate planner, summarized the staff report saying that the housing
evaluators are asking the city to stop requiring the property owner's disclosure section in
the city's truth-in-housing report. Mr. Mike Moser, representing the Minnesota Society
of Housing Inspectors, was present.
Commissioner Connelly said the city had originally copied the St. Paul form and wanted
to know if St. Paul still had the property owner's portion on it. Mr. Moser said that St.
Paul never had the property owner's portion on their form. Staff said this portion was
added by staff and the city council.
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Commissioner Fischer said the council included this portion because there were several
complaints from new home buyers about failed wells, failed septic systems, and
easements which weren't disclosed at the time of sale.
Staff said that the HRA needed to consider whether the city should keep any or all or
none of the items in the form. Staff said if the HRA made any changes (by adding or
dropping items) they would need to do a code amendment and take it to the city council
for approval. Staff said that the forms would be changed based upon the council's
decision.
There was a discussion about having a separate disclosure form for the owner to fill out
and what items should be included on that form. There was also discussion about
having the housing evaluator send the form, along with his report, to the homeowner
and the homeowner would be required to fill out the form and send it in. An extra copy
could also be sent to realtors.
Mr. Moser said that they felt the report the evaluator fills out should be very easy for the
consumer to follow, it should be more specific, and follow a prescribed set of guidelines.
Mr. Moser said the proposed form that they put together follows the exact numbering of
the St. Paul form. The St. Paul guidelines go number by number, pointing out all the
specifics that have to be called and why.
Mr. John Perriard, representing the St. Paul Area Association of Realtors, was present.
Mr. Perriard said he does most of the communications for the board and came to the
meeting to get some more information about any problems the city was having in the
truth-in-housing ordinance. Mr. Perriard said he would get a message out to his
members to encourage potential home buyers to have their own home inspection done.
Commissioner Connelly asked staff if an ordinance change would be necessary if the
owner's portion was made into a separate form. Staff said the ordinance requires a
signed statement by the owner and that a format change would not require an ordinance
change. Commissioner Connelly said that this form could then be updated whenever
necessary because it would be separate from the ordinance.
There was a discussion about the inspection process, including license and report fees,
insurance, etc. It was stressed that there was a need for housing inspectors and real
estate agents to work more closely together in the inspection process. Mr. Moser said
that the evaluators want to "self police" as much as pOSSible and they want to make sure
every evaluator does the best reasonable report they can and continually get better.
Commissioner Pearson said he didn't have a problem with moving the approval of this
motion but he felt that as a commission they needed to take another look at our
ordinance and is it serving the public need. Commissioner Fischer said that they should
probably get some input from the council as to whether what was a good idea ten years
ago still applies today.
Commissioner Fischer asked what the evaluators' opinion was on having some type of
mandatory compliance. Mr. Moser said that about three quarters of the compliance
issues are minor things that don't require a permit, therefore, there would be no funds
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for the city to do it. Cities with larger staff can handle this type of thing and do the
follow-ups. The City of Minneapolis will be sending all of their people out but they are
making everybody get a permit for almost everything to fund it. Mr. Moser said the thing
to consider was can the city afford to send someone out and do all of these
reinspections and certifications.
City staff got the impression that realtors were very fearful that their paychecks were
going to go because compliance would mean sales were going to be lost or held up and
that they would lose their commissions. City staff didn't see this happening based on
what they have read in Minneapolis, Bloomington, St. Louis Park, Hopkins, and other
cities.
Mr. Perriard said the realtors were opposed to the code compliance. Mr. Perriard said
the Minneapolis ordinance has not gone into effect yet and there are a lot of realtors
who are going to be watching closely to see what happens when it does. Mr. Moser
said the only thing Minneapolis is requiring are hazard items on grounded outlets,
exposed wires, monoxide backing, etc. Structural things, unless they are in danger of
collapse, are not required and would still be listed as a below item as informational and
a roof would almost never be required unless it is collapsing.
Mr. Moser said that if the city used the St. Paul form line for line it would be easier for
everyone involved. The staff said the city's main concern was that the reports be done
so that the buyer has the information.
There was a discussion between the commissioners and city staff about the contents of
the form. They discussed what needed to be on the form and what didn't. The
consensus was to make the city's truth-in-housing form as compatible with St. Paul's
form, as prepared by Mr. Moser, as possible for the inspector's part, with supplemental
pages required by the City of Maplewood for the owner's disclosure. The commission
instructed staff to prepare a separate owner's disclosure form to be brought back to the
next meeting. Commissioner Pearson said he felt that it would be better to use the word
seller instead of owner on the property disclosure form.
B. 1998 Housing Plan Update
Ken Roberts, associate planner, summarized the staff report. Staff said that the report
reflects updated numbers from the Met Council on what affordable was for them both for
home purchasing and rental costs. The commission asked staff to check to see if the
figures included manufactured homes. Staff said they were confident that manufactured
homes were counted in the numbers.
Commissioner Fischer asked staff if the long-term Federal contracts with landlords for
the set aside of units for the Section 8 and Section 236 rental assistance programs had
actually expired as mentioned on Page 58 of the staff report. Commissioner Fischer
said they may be expiring because the owners are taking advantage of the prepayment
not because their time is up. Commissioner Fischer thought that instead of using the
word expired in the last part of this sentence that it should read were maybe prepaid by
the owners and thus many affordable units were lost.
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Commissioner Fischer said that on Page 58 the Archer Heights address should be listed
as1816 Beebe Road and 1854 Beebe Road. Staff asked if the commission had any
other changes to this portion of the comprehensive plan.
Commissioner Fischer asked if the Livable Communities Act was included in the action
plan on Page 70 of the staff report. Staff said it wasn't. Commissioner Fischer thought
the Livable Communities Act (LCA) could be listed under the Funding column across
from the sentence that starts with Explore all options. . . in the Action column on Page
70.
There was a further discussion of the plan in general among the commissioners and
staff.
Commissioner Connelly moved approval of the Housing Plan as amended.
Commissioner Pearson seconded.
Ayes-all
The motion passed.
8. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
The next HRA meeting is tentatively scheduled for December 8, 1998.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.