HomeMy WebLinkAbout08/16/19991. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
a. August 2, 1999
4. Approval of Agenda
MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, August 16, 1999, 7:00 PM
City Hall Council Chambers
1830 County Road B East
5, New Business
a. US West Monopole Conditional Use Permit (1725 Kennard Street)
b. Dege Garden Center Conditional Use Permit Revision (831 Century Avenue North)
c. Minnesota Motors Conditional Use Permit Revision (135 Century Avenue North)
6. Visitor Presentations
7. Commission Presentations
a. August 9 Council Meeting: Mr. Trippler
b. August 23 Council Meeting: Mr. Mueller
c. September 13 Council Meeting: Mr. Ledvina
8. Staff Presentations
a. Reschedule September 6, 1999 meeting (Labor Day)
9. Adjournment
MINUTES OF THE MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
1830 COUNTY ROAD B EAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
AUGUST 16, 1999
I. CALLTO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Lorraine Fischer
Jack Frost
Matt Ledvina
Paul Mueller
Gary Pearson
William Rossbach
Michael Seeber
Milo Thompson
Dale Trippler
Present
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Present
Present at 7:08 p.m.
Absent
Absent
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Present
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
August 2, 1999
Commissioner Frost moved approval of the minutes of August 2, 1999, as submitted.
Commissioner Thompson seconded.
Ayes--Fischer, Frost, Seeber,
Thompson, Trippler
Abstain--Ledvina
The motion passed.
IV. APPROVAL OFAGENDA
Commissioner Frost moved approval of the agenda as submitted.
Commissioner Ledvina seconded.
Ayes--all
The motion passed.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. U.S. West Monopole Conditional Use Permit (1725 Kennard Street)
Ken Roberts, associate planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Trippler asked about
a resident concern that transmissions from the tower might interfere with television reception.
Mr. Roberts said U.S. West previously did extensive testing in conjunction with constructing a
tower in the vicinity of the 3M Company. 3M was satisfied from these tests that there would be
no problem. This monopole has been up for over a year and there have been no complaints.
Mr. Roberts further added that there have not been complaints about any interference from any
of the towers within the city.
Ken Nielsen was present representing U.S. West. He distributed a photograph that showed the
new type of monopole that they are proposing for this location. Mr. Nielsen said initially they
intended to mount the pole on the church itself. It was determined that this was not safe or
feasible. This site is desirable for a pole because it is one of the larger in the area and the
property is primarily on a hill. There are also mature, existing trees that screen the area.
Mr. Nielsen gave the specifics of the pole and the equipment.
Commissioner Trippler had asked Mr. Nielsen to provide a map showing the location of their
towers in other communities, particularly North Oaks. Mr. Nielsen did not have such a map and
felt the one provided with the report was relevant to this specific application. Dan Wiesenburger,
radio systems design engineer with U.S. West Wireless, answered questions from the
commission. He said, even though North Oaks is approximately the same size as the northern
portion of Maplewood, they only have one tower within the city limits because of the larger lots
and fewer homes. If Maplewood had the same density there would probably be a similar layout
here. Mr. Wiesenburger said high density population areas are generally better served by
numerous, Iow-profile, short towers because that matches U.S. West capacity.
Commissioner Trippler asked about the possibility of collocating on the existing tower near Frost
and English. Mr. Wiesenburger responded that this tower would only serve the western half of
the coverage area that they are trying to cover. He said it saves "enormous costs" when
collocating. Mr. Wiesenburger claimed that the hill at the Presentation Church site would block
the signals from this tower to White Bear Avenue, an area where U.S. West needs coverage.
Therefore, he ruled out the tower at Frost and English for "technical feasibility reasons."
Commissioner Seeber inquired about the typical range of the tower and how much they overlap.
Mr. Wiesenburger said the range in an urban area with high-foliage density is limited to about
one-quarter mile in a residential area and up to one-half mile on a street like White Bear Avenue.
He also said the overlap is very minimal. This tower will be about one or two feet lower than the
cross on the Presentation Church.
Commissioner Mueller wondered about how much communication occurs between competitors
when planning their telecommunication needs. Mr. Wiesenburger replied that, if they see a
competitor's tower in an area where they desire a new site, they will contact that company to
see if they would like to lease space. He said they generally do not talk ahead of time.
According to Mr. Wiesenburger, they have used several competitors' towers throughout the
metropolitan area. In addition, others are allowed to use the U.S. West towers. Mr. Nielsen said
U.S. West currently has master use agreements with more than half of the wireless carriers in
the metropolitan area. Therefore, collocation is not uncommon in this area.
Mr. Nielsen said the four-foot tall trees are to screen the equipment from the users of the
church. He said the existing trees are approximately 40 to 55 feet tall to the north, west and
south of the proposed pole. To the east there is the church between the proposed pole and the
neighboring property. He also pointed out that only two objections were received from more
than 60 notices sent to surrounding property owners.
Commissioner Frost moved the Planning Commission recommend:
Adoption of the resolution which approves a conditional use permit to allow a 73-foot-tall
telecommunications monopole and related equipment. This approval is for the property at
1725 Kennard Street. The city bases this approval on the findings required by the ordinance
and is subject to the following conditions:
1. Ail construction shall follow the site plan approved by the city. The director of community
development may approve minor changes.
The proposed construction must be substantially started within one year of council
approval or the permit shall become null and void. The council may extend this deadline
for one year.
3. The city council shall review this permit in one year.
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Commissioner Ledvina seconded.
Ayes--Fischer, Frost, Ledvina, Mueller, Seeber
Thompson
Nays--Trippler
The motion passed.
B. Dege Garden Center Conditional Use Permit Revision (831 Century Avenue North)
Ken Roberts, associate planner, presented the staff report. He said that the CUP was due for
review and that Mr. Dege, the owner, was asking for a revision to his CUP for a temporary
chain-link fence he had already installed. Mr. Roberts said a neighbor filed a complaint about
the addition of the fenced-in area because they were concerned that if this was allowed by the
city it would start the wheels to further expansion of Mr. Dege's commercial center nearer to the
residential area. Mr. Roberts said staff recommends denial of the request to expand the site by
allowing the fenced-in display area. Staff would recommend continuation of the conditional use
permit subject to two conditions relating to the removal of the outdoor storage area. Mr. Roberts
answered questions from the commissioners.
Commissioner Thompson asked staff if a permit was required to put up a fence on a residential
property. Staff said if the fence is six feet high or less a permit is not required.
Commissioner Trippler asked if the city can levy a fine or fee against Mr. Dege for repeated
violations of his CUP. Mr. Roberts said that the city would have to hold a public hearing first and
the outcome could be either a revocation of the conditional use permit or being put on probation.
Staff said that only the district courts can levy fines. Melinda Coleman, director of community
development, said that the city would have to go through the review process to revoke the
conditional use permit. If the CUP was revoked and Mr. Dege did not comply, he would be cited
and it would go to district court.
Commissioner Trippler wanted to clarify that the first conditional use permit is to allow parking in
an R1 zone and if the owner continues to meet the revisions that were originally set he could
continue to park in the R1 zone. Staff said that the revision requested was to allow the outdoor
fenced storage area. Staff said that if the owner doesn't try to expand or cause other problems
then they could continue to park in the R-1 zone.
Chairperson Fischer asked staff if there were any other instances in the city where there is a
commercial parking lot on an R1 zone with a conditional use permit. Staff said that if the city
does, there are very few. Staff said they couldn't recall processing one in the last ten years.
Staff said that Mr. Dege was not present because he was out of town and wouldn't be back until
next week.
Commissioner Frost moved the Planning Commission recommend:
Denial of the conditional use permit revision requested by George Dege to add a fenced-in
outdoor storage area for plant materials on a portion of the parking lot at 831 N. Century
Avenue. Denial is based on the following reasons:
Approval would narrow the easterly drive lane in the parking lot to a width of 18
feet---code requires 24 feet for a two-way drive aisle. (The drive aisle is nonconforming
already at 23 feet wide.)
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Approval of this fencing would allow a material storage and retail use on property zoned
R1 (single dwelling residential). This would be a violation of the R1 zoning requirements.
Since the proposed fenced storage area is in the drive aisle it would potentially obstruct
traffic flow.
Continuation of the conditional use permit for Dege Garden Center, at 831 N. Century
Avenue, subject to the following conditions:
1. Mr. Dege shall remove the outdoor, plant-material storage area behind the building within
one month of this council action.
If Mr. Dege does not remove this fencing as directed, the city council shall reconsider the
continuation of this permit. If Mr. Dege removes the fencing as required within one
month, the city council shall review this permit again in five years.
Commissioner Trippler seconded.
Ayes--all
The motion passed.
Minnesota Motors Conditional Use Permit Revision (135 Century Avenue North)
Ken Roberts, associate planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Frost asked about a
similar issue that occurred at the Toyota dealership on Highway 61. He asked staff about the
resolution of that matter. Mr. Roberts said this involved a paved trail along the highway that was
required at the time Toyota was originally built. Toyota eventually started using this trail and
asked for a revision of their conditional use permit. The city allowed them to expand their
parking lot and move the curbline, keeping it all on their property. They also were directed to
remove the trail and replace it with grass.
Commissioner Thompson asked if enforcement of this issue was based on complaint or general
enforcement of the policy. Mr. Roberts said this issue began with a complaint. He confirmed
that a site inspection is done when a conditional use permit is due for review. Melinda
Coleman, director of community development, said the city does not go looking for this type of
violation but does take action when they see it.
Glenn Dreher was present representing Minnesota Motors. He assured the commission that the
only reason they paved this area was because it was a "mudhole." Mr. Dreher said this area
has never had a curb on the outside of the grass and, therefore, people would simply pull up and
park on the grass. He said posts were placed and one driveway eliminated to discourage
vandalism. According to Mr. Dreher, no cars that are for sale are placed in this area.
Commissioner Carlson wondered if the applicant had ever tried to put a fence in this area.
Mr. Dreher did not like the appearance of a fence. He felt the only way to resolve this problem,
if parking is not allowed in this paved area, is to install a curb to stop people from pulling up
here.
Commissioner Frost assumed it was illegal for cars to park on the boulevard grass.
Ms. Coleman recalled two instances where parking was allowed in the Mn/DOT right-of-way.
Mr. Frost questioned whether it was the applicant's problem or an issue that the city needed to
resolve by getting the police involved. Ms. Coleman suggested putting no parking signs on the
street. Mr. Dreher said there are now signs on the posts that face the grass area but they don't
seem to stop people.
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Commissioner Mueller suggested 4 x 4 posts similar to those used to stop people from entering
parks. He didn't feel it was the applicant's responsibility to stop people from parking on city
property, but thought that paving the area made it easier to park there. Commissioner
Thompson thought if the applicant is required to remove the blacktop and restore the area, the
city should put in concrete curb and "very obvious" no parking signs. He also suggested a very
short retaining wall on the south edge of this property. Mr. Dreher asked about installing two of
the city no parking signs in the pavement three or four feet out from the posts. They would not
remove the blacktop.
Commissioner Frost questioned if the issue was the blacktop on the public right-of-way or the
parking illegally in the right-of-way. He thought putting the signs in the middle of the paved area
would be a reasonable option. Commissioner Thompson asked about the applicant putting a
directional sign at the western edge of his entrance to indicate the customer parking area.
Commissioner Mueller felt it was the city's responsibility to enforce parking regulations.
Commissioner Trippler said it appeared that the real issue was the paving of the boulevard. He
thought the commission was being asked to recommend to the city council that the blacktop that
was done by the applicant be removed from the boulevard and grass be restored because it was
not his property. Ms. Coleman felt the commission could look at other solutions for the issue.
Commissioner Ledvina agreed with Mr. Dreher that a curb is required to prevent the problem in
the future. Mr. Roberts thought it would probably be up to the city council to direct the city to
install a curb. The council could also direct the applicant to install a curb and no parking signs.
Ms. Coleman said the city does not normally pay for curbing unless they are doing a city project.
Chairperson Fischer asked it shrubs or other plantings would be permitted on a boulevard.
Ms. Coleman said landscaping is allowed but there is a height maximum of about 36 inches.
Mr. Roberts mentioned the potential for snowplow damage. Ms. Fischer suggested that
petunias or other summer plantings would not be affected.
Commissioner Mueller recommended that, if the staff recommendation is approved, the city
council or whoever would find ways to also eliminate the illegal parking.
Commissioner Trippler moved the Planning Commission recommend denial of Don Roemer's
request for approval of his revised site plan for Minnesota Motors at 135 Century Avenue North.
Denial is based on the following reasons:
1. The paving of the Brookview Drive boulevard is contrary to the approved site plan for
Minnesota Motors.
2. Allowing parking on the boulevard would be contrary to city code requirements.
3. Allowing parking on the boulevard would set a precedent whereby other property owners in
Maplewood may wish to do the same.
The city council should require that Mr. Roemer remove the blacktop and restore this area with
sod by October 15, 1999. The city should also encourage the installation of curbing and/or the
planting of trees or shrubs on the boulevard to eliminate the problem of parking on the area in
question. If the boulevard is not restored by that time, the city council shall consider the
revocation of Mr. Roemer's conditional use permit.
Commissioner Ledvina seconded.
Commissioner Mueller didn't think it was prudent to be so specific with what should be put in the
area. He preferred to have the recommendation say that the city is responsible to solve this
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illegal parking problem on the boulevard by whatever means necessary. Chairperson Fischer
asked if Mr. Trippler would accept a friendly amendment to say "the city should consider
alternatives such as curbing..." Mr. Trippler and Mr. Ledvina were both agreeable to this
amendment. Commissioner Thompson mentioned a previous instance where an applicant
complained about trees destroying a sight line to his business. He thought this would happen in
this case. Commissioner Ledvina had a problem with using a term like "encourage." He
thought it was better to specifically require that the curbing be installed or some other technique.
Commissioner Mueller changed the wording to say "the city council will develop ways to
eliminate this illegal parking."
Ms. Coleman said that if the recommendation was removal of the blacktop, it would make sense
to look at landscaping and curbing. If removal was the commission's choice, it should be left up
to staff to find alternative solutions. An alternative would be for staff to take another look at the
issue and bring the item back to the next meeting.
Commissioner Frost was not in favor of having the blacktop removed. Ms. Coleman said the
complaint involved aesthetics as well as the illegal parking. Mr. Roberts said that the property
owner normally maintains the boulevard but if they do not, then the city would do it.
Mr. Thompson felt the owners of the property had been diligent in trying to control the parking
during business hours. He added that what happens after business hours was somewhat
beyond their control.
Commissioner Seeber didn't think it was appropriate to have the applicant remove the blacktop.
He felt the best solution was to place several posts farther north in this area to prevent the cars
from parking there. Mr. Seeber also thought it was necessary to place several lower posts with
"slightly larger signs" on them. Commissioner Trippler believed the applicant tried to correct the
problem but did not consult the city. He was concerned that, because the applicant did this on
property that did not belong to him, it might set a precedent for other boulevards throughout the
city. Mr. Trippler thought the solution was to require that curbing be installed and the grass
restored to the way it previously was. He said that if this works there may not be a need for
shrubs, etc.
Chairperson Fischer clarified that the motion was the staff recommendation through and
including Item 3 and the following paragraph:
The city council shall require that Mr. Roemer remove the blacktop and restore this area with
sod by October 15, 1999. The city council should require the installation of curbing and consider
alternatives such as the planting of trees and shrubs on the boulevard to eliminate the problem
of parking in the area in question. If the boulevard is not restored by that time, the city council
shall consider the revocation of Mr. Roemer's conditional use permit.
Ayes--Fischer, Ledvina, Trippler
Nays--Frost, Mueller, Thompson, Seeber
The motion failed.
Commissioner Frost moved the Planning Commission recommend that Mr. Roemer's request for
approval of the revised site plan for Minnesota Motors at 135 Century Avenue North be
approved. The approval is based on the following reasons:
The intent was to eliminate an unsightly condition by paving the area. However, parking should
be disallowed in this area and signs should be posted within this paved area indicating that no
parking is allowed. This is contrary to city ordinances and police should monitor the area to
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assure that no parking during nonworking hours is obeyed. This shall not set a precedent within
the city of allowing parking and paving in the boulevard areas. This is not in accordance with
city plans.
Commissioner Thompson seconded.
Melinda Coleman said that, according to Ken Haider (city engineer), there is not a code that
says you cannot pave the right-of-way. She said parking is not allowed in the boulevard without
special permission from the council. Driveways are allowed in the right-of-way with the city's
approval. Ms. Coleman said the problem with the Minnesota Motors case was that they did not
get the city's approval to pave the right-of-way.
Ayes--Fischer, Frost, Mueller, Seeber,
Thompson
Nays--Ledvina, Trippler
The motion passed.
VI. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
There were no visitor presentations.
VII. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
A. August 9 Council Meeting: Mr. Trippler reported on this meeting.
B. August 23 Council Meeting: Mr. Mueller is scheduled to attend this meeting.
C. September 13 Council Meeting: Mr. Ledvina is scheduled to attend this meeting.
Commissioner Frost asked if people were allowed to store various objects in the right-of-way. Staff
said this is not allowed and the Maplewood health official should be notified. Commissioner Thompson
said he has seen a lot of residential cars parked on the unpaved boulevard. Melinda Coleman,
director of community development, said that is a police issue and they should be called. Mr.
Thompson commented that the city's "passive administrative attitude sometimes concerns me and
sometimes amazes me." He said "enforcement officials are blind unless they get a telephone call
complaining." Ms. Coleman told Mr. Thompson that his comments "were coming to the wrong
person." She further stated that this was a matter for the police chief.
Commissioner Frost mentioned that the Bruentrup farm home is still on the site. Ms. Coleman said
the house will be left on the original site until the new foundation is completed so the building will only
need to be relocated once.
VIII. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
Reschedule September 6, 1999 Meeting (Labor Day)
The majority of commissioners would be available for a meeting on Tuesday, September 7,
1999. This date was selected.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:48 p.m.