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MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, May 4, 1998
7:00 PM
City Hall Council Chambers, 1830 County Road B East
Call to Order
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
April 20, 1998
Approval of Agenda
Public Hearings
A. Carey Addition (Carey Heights Drive, south of County Road D)
1. Land Use Plan Change (R-1 to R-2)
2. Zoning Map Change (R-1 to R-2)
3. Preliminary Plat Revision
6. New Business
A. Resolution of Appreciation - Bunny Brueggeman
B. Conditional Use Permit - Heavy Commercial Vehicle (Reitberger - 562 Ferndale Street)
C. Gonyea Corporation Requests (Henry Lane)
1. Conditional Use Permit for Mining
2. Code Variations
3. Preliminary Plat
Visitor Presentations
Commission Presentations
A. April 27 Council Meeting: Mr. Thompson
B. May 11 Council Meeting: Mr. Rossbach
C. May 21 Council Meeting: Ms. Fischer
Staff Presentations
Adjournment
MINUTES OF THE MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
t830 COUNTY ROAD B EAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
MAY 4, '1998
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioner Lorraine Fischer
Commissioner Jack Frost
Commissioner Milton Knoll
Commissioner Matt Ledvina
Commissioner Gary Pearson
Commissioner William Rossbach
Commissioner Milo Thompson
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
IV.
Present
Present
Present
Absent
Present
Present
Present
Commissioner Rossbach seconded.
The motion passed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A.
The motion passed.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner Frost moved approval of the agenda as submitted.
Ayesmall
Carey Addition (Carey Heights Drive, south of County Road D): Land Use Plan Change (R-1 to R-
2), Zoning Map Change (R-1 to R-2), Preliminary Plat Revision.
Ken Roberts, associate planner, presented the staff report. Mr. Roberts answered questions from
the Commissioners.
Commissioner Thompson asked what staff meant that standards were met regarding the
extremely steep grade on the building lots at the north end. Staff said there were no standards for
lot elevations above the roads and that staff was referring to right-of-way width, lot width, and lot
size, i.e., square feet. The terrain has nothing to do with approval if they can get a grading plan
that is satisfactory to the city engineer. They would have to meet minimum slope requirements of
3:1.
Commissioner Pearson asked what staff does when a grade exceeds 3:1 in regard to requiring
sod before a certificate of occupancy can be issued. Staff said it is required that all erosion control
measures are in place and functioning before occupancy is granted.
Ayes--all
April 20, 1998
Commissioner Pearson moved approval of the minutes of April 20, 1998 as submitted.
Commissioner Frost seconded.
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Commissioner Frost asked who informs the homeowners of the existing houses that they have to
hook into the sanitary sewer. Staff said that the applicant does this, however, staff would be happy
to write a letter to the homeowners.
Commissioner Rossbach asked if the erosion control plans that are in the city code deal with
sodding. Staff answered in the affirmative. Commissioner Rossbach asked how many people
could live in this area if it was all R-1 versus how many people live there now. Staff said that it
would be about the same number.
Commissioner Frost asked if staff knew what the comprehensive plan for Vadnais Heights was on
the other side of County Road D. Staff answered that they had not contacted Yadnais Heights on
this.
Commissioner Knoll asked if the existing road, off of County Road D to the south, was a city or
private road. Staff said it was privately maintained.
Mr. Robert Cardinal, representing the applicant, Calhoun Companies, was present to answer
questions from the Commissioners.
Commissioner Rossbach asked where the Novak's owned property. Mr. Cardinal said the Novak
property was just to the south of the Hansford property.
Commissioner Knoll asked what the off street parking availability was on the properties. Staff said
that there would be adequate off street parking. The city requires two spaces for each twin home
and there are no requirements for single homes.
Rich Pearson, 2990 Carey Heights Drive, asked staff if all the property has to sell first in order for
this development to go through. Staff said it could be platted in phases so it wouldn't have to be.
Mr. Pearson asked if there was anyplace south of County Road D, east or west of Carey Heights
Drive, that was zoned for multiple dwellings. Staff answered that there was commercial property
between Highway 61 and the proposed project but not multiple family. Mr. Pearson is against
multiple dwellings and feels it would bring increased traffic. He asked if there was a minimum
requirement on the size of the lots for multiple dwellings.. Staff said they have to be at least 12,000
square feet and they do meet that standard. Staff said there were several lots at 12,000 square
feet, two at 21,000 square feet, and one at 12,500 square feet.
Pam Krahmer, 2999 Carey Heights Drive, said a variance was granted last year for a house to be
under 10,000 square feet and one of the conditions was that any single family house that would be
built there have either a 15 or 20-foot setback from the property line to the south, which adjoins her
property, and she wanted to know if that still carries on. Staff said if there was a condition like that
it would carry on. Ms. Krahmer said she was in favor of single family houses up and down the
street on both sides to keep it consistent with the neighborhood. She asked if the traffic calming
device would be a concrete island or a trees and plants beautification type of thing. Staff said it
was proposed as an island and the design specifics have not been worked out as to whether it
would be just blacktop on the top or be planted. She asked if there would be any types of
covenants enforced on these homes. Staff said that would be between the developer and the
home buyer. The city can't and doesn't require any kind of covenants. She asked if, in the future,
a road would divert from County Road D south of the animal hospital over on Highway 61. Staff
said this was definitely in the distant future.
Commissioner Frost asked staff what happens to the property once the Frattalone mining
operation ceases. Staff says the permit ends in two or three years and then the permit ends. They
could come back to the Council and ask to have it extended at that time.
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Commissioner Rossbach asked staff if there were any guidelines in the comprehensive plan for
positioning double dwellings. Staff said there were no specific guidelines. There was a general
statement in the comprehensive plan about allowing double dwellings spread out with single family
dwellings on an occasional basis. The thought being that if in a ten block area you had two or
three double dwellings here and there it shouldn't be a problem.
Jeff Bradt, 1236 Summit Court, said he was more supportive of just single family dwellings in the
new development.
Frank Frattalone, 3205 Centerville Road, said he has the mining permit and the reason for this
permit, which is actually for grading, is to remove excess material on the site so that the site can be
developed. He said he is in favor of the Carey Heights project because he owns a lot on the south
side that the cul-de-sac sits on and he would like to see the cul-de-sac off of there so he could sell
his lot. He wants the proposal to include the cul-de-sac being taken off his property and that the
curb be extended down across the front of his lot.
Commissioner Thompson asked staff how it could be established that the house under 10,000
square feet was in keeping with the covenant that was made. Director of Community Development
Coleman said it did not appear to be in the minutes from the time the plat was approved but at that
time Councilmember Rossbach said he wanted the 15 to 20-foot side yard setback to be a
condition. Director Coleman said it could be added on Page 7 of the staff report under Item 7 as
follows: d. A covenant for a 15-foot side yard setback on Lot 1, Block 3 for the south side of the
lot.
Commissioner Rossbach commented that the plat overall was a pretty good layout but he was
uncomfortable with the number of the double units. He felt that a good area for the double units
would be down towards County Road D across the street from the apartments. He felt having four
units on each side of the street was too many. He would like to see only two units on each side of
the street which looks like it would still leave space for three additional single units north of the
pipeline on each side of the street.
Pam Krahmer, 2999 Carey Heights Drive, appeared before the commision a second time. In
regard to the curbing issue brought up by Mr. Frattalone, Ms. Krahmer said a small portion of her
yard is taken up as part of the temporary cul-de-sac. She wanted to know how she could ensure
that her yard would be restored to its original size once the street is permanently placed through
and permanent curb and gutter set in. Staff replied that this would be addressed on the final
construction plans that the city engineer reviews and approves before work can be started.
Commissioner Frost asked what the requirements were for setbacks from power lines. Staff said
there are no requirements and that they can build up to the easement line but not into the
easement.
Commissioner Pearson commented that he would prefer to see this project as all single family.
Commissioner Frost said that, with the power line and County Road D and the mining operation to
the east, he would be comfortable with somewhere between eight and sixteen double dwellings.
Commissioner Rossbach asked staff if we could set up an area that would be R-2, that being the
area north of the power lines, and then dictate how many buildings go into it. Staff said the only
way to do that would be if you were negotiating in a PUD. Commissioner Rossbach said if that
were the case he would be open for a motion to deny the request because what he is hearing is
that it doesn't quite meet what anybody really wants to have and he will not vote for the plat as it is.
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Commissioner Rossbach moved to recommend that the city council deny the resolution which
changes the land use plan for the north one-half of Carey Addition along Carey Heights Drive,
south of County Road D, from R-1 (single dwellings) to R-2 (single and double dwellings). The
reasons for this recommendation are:
'1. The density would be too high.
2. The terrain is too steep from County Road D up to the first residence.
3. It would be consistent with existing zoning and land uses.
Commissioner Pearson seconded.
Commissioner Fischer had difficulty with the motion because she did not think the R-2 between the
power lines and County Road D would be inconsistent with what is on the other side of County
Road D. She felt it was removed enough from the other R-ls that it would not be that much of a
problem.
Commissioner Rossbach pointed out that his only problem with it is the quantity of the double
units. If there were some way that the number of buildings could be regulated that would go onto
an area or if the single family dwellings north of the power line could be extended, then he would
not have a problem with it.
Commissioner Pearson directed the commission's attention to the west of this project and Walter
Street which is all R-1 directly up to County Road D.
Ayes--Frost, Knoll, Pearson, Rossbach, Thompson
Nays--Fischer
The motion passed.
Commissioner Rossbach moved to recommend that the city council deny the resolution changing
the zoning map for the north half of Carey Addition along Carey Heights Drive, south of County
Road D, from R-1 (single dwellings) to R-2 (single and double dwellings).
Commissioner Pearson seconded.
Ayes--all
The motion passed.
No action was taken on the preliminary plat revision.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Resolution of Appreciation - Bunny Brueggeman.
Ken Roberts, associate planner, presented the staff report regarding the resignation of Bunny
Brueggeman from the planning commission.
Commissioner Rossbach moved the Planning Commission recommend the adoption of the Joint
Resolution of Appreciation for Bunny Brueggeman. Commissioner Rossbach, on behalf of the
Planning Commission, thanked Bunny and wished her well. Staff was directed to change the
mayor's name from Gary Bastian to George Rossbach and to change Lorraine Fisher's title from
Vice Chairman to Chairperson on the resolution.
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Commissioner Thompson seconded.
The motion passed.
Ayes--all
B. Conditional Use Permit - Heavy Commercial Vehicle (Reitberger - 562 Ferndale Street)
Ken Roberts, associate planner, presented the staff report. Commissioner Thompson commented
that when he drove through the neighborhood he saw other commercial vehicles and wanted to
know what was being done about them. Staff said in the last two weeks a sweep was done
throughout the city and notices were sent out to property owners for code violations. The property
owners have 30 days to correct the problem.
Commissioner Frost asked what the code states regarding someone occasionally parking their
tractor on their driveway. Staff said that the ordinance states they cannot do it unless they are
approved by the city.
Wayne Reitberger, the applicant, 562 Ferndale Street, commented that he felt the other vehicles in
the neighborhood should be made to apply for a permit.
Commissioner Frost moved to recommend that the city council approve the resolution for a
conditional use permit for Wayne Reitberger to store and park one heavy commercial vehicle
(semi-tractor truck) on his property at 562 Ferndale Street subject to the following conditions:
1. The owner or operator of the truck doing the following:
a. Residing on the property.
b. Parking the truck in an enclosed structure or on a hard surface driveway that meets the
applicable zoning district requirements.
c. Not parking the truck on the street.
d. Not parking or storing any commercial trailers on the property or on the street.
The owner or operator shall not let the vehicle's engine idle for more than thirty (30) minutes
in any one (1) hour period. In no circumstances may the owner or operator idle the engine for
more than two periods, lasting thirty (30) minutes each, in one twenty-four (24) hour period.
There shall not be any engine idling that disturbs the neighbors between 9 p.m. and 7 a.m.
3. The city council shall review this permit in one year.
Commissioner Knoll seconded.
Ayes--all
The motion was passed.
VII.
VIII.
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Gonyea Corporation Requests (Henry Lane): Conditional Use Permit for Mining, Code Variations,
and Preliminary Plat.
Staff said the applicant requested that this item be tabled indefinitely.
Commissioner Knoll moved to table this item per the applicant's request and will be placed back
on the agenda at such time as the applicant requests.
Commissioner Frost seconded.
The motion passed.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
There were no visitor presentations.
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
A.
B.
C.
Ayes--all
April 27 Council Meeting: Mr. Thompson reported on this meeting.
May 11 Council Meeting: Mr. Rossbach will attend this meeting.
May 21 Council Meeting: Mrs. Fischer noted that she might not be able to attend this meeting.
IX. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
None
X. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:37 p.m.