HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/08/20041. Call to Order
MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 7:00 PM
City Hall Council Chambers
1830 County Road B East
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
a. August 16, 2004
5. Public Hearings
7:00 Home Occupation License (1477 County Road C)
7:30
Ramsey County Suburban Courthouse (2050 White Bear Avenue)
Lot Division
Conditional Use Permit
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New Business
None
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Unfinished Business
None
8. Visitor Presentations
9. Commission Presentations
a. August 23 Council Meeting: Mr. Mueller
b. September 13 Council Meeting: Mr. Bartol
c. September 27 Council Meeting: Ms. Dierich
d. October 14 Council Meeting: Ms. Fischer
10.
Staff Presentations
a. Commissioner's Appreciation Picnic - Wednesday, September 15
11. Adjournment
MINUTES OF THE MAPLEWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION
1830 COUNTY ROAD B EAST, MAPLEWOOD, MINNESOTA
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2004
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Chairperson Lorraine Fischer
Commissioner Jeff Bartol
Vice-Chairperson Tushar Desai
Commissioner Mary Dierich
Commissioner Michael Grover
Commissioner Daniel Lee
Commissioner Paul Mueller
Commissioner Gary Pearson
Commissioner Dale Trippler
Present
Present
Absent
Present
Absent
Present
Present
Present
Absent
Staff Present:
Ken Roberts, Planner
Lisa Kroll, Recording Secretary
Erin Laberee, Staff Engineer
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Roberts requested to remove the Home Occupation License at 1477 County Road C from the
Public Hearing portion of the meeting due to the applicant withdrawing their request from the city.
Because of this withdrawal, Mr. Roberts requested to move the Commission Presentations and
Staff Presentations portions of the meeting before to the Public Hearing portion of the meeting to
fill in time until the 7:30 p.m. public hearing for the Ramsey County Suburban Courthouse.
Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the agenda as amended.
Commissioner Bartol seconded. Ayes - Bartol, Dierich, Fischer, Lee, Mueller, Pearson
The motion passed.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approval of the planning commission minutes for August 16, 2004.
Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the planning commission minutes for August 16, 2004.
Commissioner Bartol seconded. Ayes- Bartol, Dierich, Fischer, Lee, Mueller, Pearson
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V. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
a. Mr. Mueller was the planning commission representative at the August 23, 2004, city
council meeting.
The only planning commission item discussed was the Hillside Estates Preliminary Plat &
Zoning Map Change for Springside Drive, passed ayes all with some concerns that were
discussed.
b. Mr. Bartol will be the planning commission representative at the September 13, 2004,
city council meeting.
The only planning commission item to discuss will be the Cottages at Legacy Village.
c. Ms. Dierich will be the planning commission representative at the September 27, 2004,
city council meeting.
There are possibly two items to discuss which include the Ramsey County Suburban Courts
Building and possibly the Summerhill Senior Housing.
d. Ms. Fischer will be the planning commission representative at the October 14, 2004, city
council meeting.
Items to discuss have not been determined yet.
VI. STAFF PRESENTATIONS
a. Commissioner's Appreciation Picnic - Wednesday, September 15, 2004
Mr. Roberts reminded planning commissioners of the appreciation picnic to be held Wednesday,
September 15, 2004, from 5:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the Battle Creek Park. This picnic is to thank
board and commission members for their service time.
**THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK A 15-MINUTE RECESS BEFORE BEGINNING THE
PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:30 p.m.
VII. PUBLIC HEARING (7:30 p.m.)
a. Ramsey County Suburban Courthouse (2050 White Bear Avenue)
Mr. Roberts said David Chase of Kraus-Anderson Construction and Ramsey County, is proposing
to build a 15,150 square-foot suburban courts building on the vacant city-owned property at 2050
White Bear Avenue. The building would have two courtrooms, office space, meeting rooms and
associated space for the suburban courts operation.
Mr. Chase is requesting that the city approve:
1. A lot division to create a new, separate lot for the courts building.
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2. A conditional use permit (CUP) to construct a public building. Section 44-1092 of the city
code requires a CUP for a public service or public building uses in any zoning district.
Commissioner Pearson asked what type of formula was used to determine the number of
handicapped parking spaces for this proposal?
Mr. Roberts said the architect can answer that but that is something the building code dictates.
Commissioner Bartol asked for additional information on the background of the current
courthouse and the reason for the new building?
Mr. Roberts said the courts are leasing space in a commercial building on White Bear Avenue
near Radatz Avenue and the facility is too small and has security issues. Because this is a
leased space and they don't want to put a lot of money into the leased building space, Ramsey
County thinks it is time to have their own free standing facility rather than leasing or renting space
in another building. There will still be two courtrooms and the number of parking spaces stays the
same but there will be more clerical and office space.
Commissioner Bartol said since Maplewood is giving this land to Ramsey County for free, what
would happen if the courthouse outgrew the new building, would the city get the land back?
Mr. Roberts said unless the city negotiates something different, the city loses the land
permanently.
Commissioner Bartol asked if Mr. Roberts could explain briefly why this would benefit
Maplewood?
Mr. Roberts said as he understood it, the city council felt it was important to keep the suburban
court in Maplewood primarily for the convenience for the police officers to appear in court with the
time constraints of having to drive to another facility, park and appear in court taking more time
away from their duties. This land is not now on the tax role and would probably never be put on
the tax role; rather, it could have been a park or expansion of the community center. Giving the
land to Ramsey County was an incentive to keep the courthouse in Maplewood and that was the
decision made by the city council.
Commissioner Bartol thanked Mr. Roberts for clearing that up for him.
Chairperson Fischer asked the applicant to address the commission.
Mr. Bruce Thompson addressed the commission. He is the Assistant Director of Property
Management for Ramsey County and the Project Manager for Ramsey County. Ramsey County
operates the suburban court facility and is mandated by state law to do so. They are leasing 1300
square feet in a commercial building. The court facility is on two different floors and there are
many issues relating to security and with the space that is sectioned off. The County did not want
to spend a lot of money to retrofit the space to their needs. Back in February, the county board
sent a letter out to the suburban cities stating Ramsey County wanted to build a new building and
that the county was looking for cities to donate the land to the county for the suburban court
facility. Maplewood was the only community that really stepped up and said they had land that
would fit Ramsey County's needs.
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Mr. Thompson said because police officers in Maplewood are often required to be in court and
wait until they are called, it takes them out of service while they are at the court facility. Being
farther away from the court facility takes officers away from their street job longer.
Mr. Steve Lanak, Architect with DSGW Architects, 548 Apollo Drive, Suite 10, Lino Lakes,
addressed the commission. He said they are working with Kraus Anderson to design the
courthouse facility. Mr. Lanak gave a new design plan to Mr. Roberts to display on the monitor.
The applicant said they would be providing new plans to Mr. Roberts on Friday September 10,
2004. This plan has relocated the parking to the back of the property and they have moved the
building to the south and lowered the building a few feet to balance the site better from a soils
condition. By moving the building to the south it creates a larger grassy area between the path
and the pond area to treat the runoff. Benefits from changing the site plan are that they pickup 14
more parking stalls in the front of the building, it creates better site drainage, and better cost. He
said regarding the handicapped parking question, they looked at the historical need for
handicapped parking at the current court facility and estimated they need 100 parking stalls.
Therefore, they used the ratio of 1 handicapped parking space per 25 parking spaces and came
up with 2 handicapped spaces in the front of the building and 2 in the back of the building.
Commissioner Dierich asked if she heard correctly that the parking drainage was going to go from
the parking lot into the pond and not into a holding pond or is that a holding pond?
Mr. Roberts said as he understands it with this plan, the applicant wants to sheet drain into the
grass run over the grass before it eventually goes over land to the wetland area. In fairness to
the city engineer they have not seen this new plan and will have to review this and see if this is
acceptable or not.
Commissioner Bartol asked if this land was fairly flat and if there was a need for a retaining wall?
Mr. Lanak said the land is fairly flat and there is probably four or five feet of slope from the south
to the north towards the pond. There isn't a significant change in grade to need a retaining wall
and he believes the wording in the report was general wording used by the city.
Commissioner Bartol said he believes the revised site plan is very good and it opens more space
up to the back where the path goes through and appreciates the change in the plan.
Commissioner Mueller asked why they would have 2 handicapped parking spaces in the rear of
the building?
Mr. Lanak said he sees that point and that may be something they may need to change since the
majority of the handicapped needs would probably be in the front of the building and not in the
rear of the building.
Commissioner Dierich asked if there were changes in the exterior of the building?
Mr. Lanak said yes there are changes to the building exterior and they expect to have those
revisions to staff later this week.
Chairperson Fischer asked if anybody else in the audience wanted to speak regarding this item?
Nobody in the audience came forward.
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Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the lot division shown on the survey on page 14 of the
staff report. This lot division creates a new, separate parcel for the Ramsey County Suburban
Courthouse facility at 2050 White Bear Avenue. This lot division approval is subject to the city
and the county signing access and maintenance agreements for the property and for the parking
lot(s).
Commissioner Pearson moved to approve the resolution on pages 24 and 25 of the staff report.
This resolution approves a conditional use permit for the Ramsey County Suburban Courts facility
at 2050 White Bear Avenue. The council bases the permit on the findings required by code and it
is subject to the following conditions:
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All construction shall follow the site plan approved by the city. The director of community
development may approve minor changes. Any future expansions or major changes to the
site or to the building require the approval of a revision to the conditional use permit by the city
council.
2. The applicant must begin construction within one year after the council approves this permit or
the permit shall end. The city council may extend this deadline for one year.
3. The city council shall review this permit in one year.
Commissioner Lee seconded. Ayes - Bartol, Dierich, Fischer, Lee, Mueller, Pearson
The motion passed.
This item goes to the CDRB on Tuesday, September 21,2004, and to the city council on Monday,
September 27, 2004.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None.
IX. NEW BUSINESS
None.
X. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
None.
Xl. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:02 p.m.