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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-07-16 HPC Minutes MINUTES MAPLEWOOD HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION COUNCIL CHAMBERS - CITY HALL JULY 16, 2009 -7:00 P.M. 1. CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M. 2. ROLL CALL Present: Chair Ron Cockriel, Vice Chair Richard Currie, Commissioners Lu Aurelius, Pete Boulay, Bob Creager, AI Galbraith, Liaison Dave Fisher and Recorder Lois Behm. Caleb Anderson arrived at 8:15 p.m. 3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Richard moved to approve the Aaenda as presented. AI seconded. Aves - all. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES a. June 18. 2009 HPC Minutes Pete requested correction of Item 9, c, pp2: Pete reported that the Post Office was originally in the train depot then later inside the Faust grocery store on the north side of Frost Avenue tRew which was replaced in the 1960s bv the building which houses the Maplewood bakery and other businessest. AI moved approval of the minutes as corrected. Bob seconded. Aves - all. 5. Chair Opening Statements/Presentations Ron noted the upcoming Taste of Maplewood on August 13 from 4:00 - 9:00 P.M., on the Community Center Campus. The event will include a petting zoo and pony rides, many activities and games for children and adults as well as food booths and adult beverage tents, music, prizes and games, and a market place with treasures to purchase. The other upcoming event is the 16th National Night Out on Tuesday August 4th Residents are encouraged to contact City Hall for information about setting up neighborhood participation. 6. OLD BUSINESS a. Proposed Historical Preservation Commission Survev List Ron reminded everyone about the map received at the last meeting and that it had been divided by the group into areas for them to check to confirm the buildings were still there. There was also discussion of the criteria to be used in evaluating the property. Ron said he had gone through his group and found that all but one were still there and asked if anyone else had been able to do so. Richard reported he had done the west section and found one that was not in the list and all the rest were still standing. Pete stated that when he looked around his area he thought of the binder done in 1997 and hopes a copy of it could be provided to all the commissioners, then updating it with current information about the present condition and anything else we can learn. Richard produced a copy of the original list, which includes location, year built, whether a picture was obtained, if the owner had received a Century Plaque, and property information available at the time, including the Property Identification Number (PIN). Pete affirmed that the yellow dots on the map show the locations of the houses on the map and that, as far as he has seen so far, all the houses in the Gladstone area are still there. Bob stated that the yellow dot for #46 (Ledo house, 1480 Sterling Street) was in the wrong place - north of Larpenteur - when it should be south, which is now a cui de sac of newer homes. It was established that since the house has been demolished it will be shown that way, either on this map or on a future map of former sites. Ron mentioned that 2410 Carver Ave (#60), and #80, the Schlompka House, are also gone, and Pete added that #24, the Oswald house at County Road C & Hazelwood, is also gone. Pete also said #94, the Northernaire Motel, needs to specify the "Motel" sign and the "Cocktails" sign as the building itself is probably not historic, but the signs are the last remaining examples of the 1950s signage along Highway 61 now that the "Countryview Golf' signs are gone. The "Tourist Cabins" sign is gone from its original location but has been saved by the Minnesota Historical Society and is on display there. The Maple Leaf Drive-In is gone in addition to, #85, #28 (Haijeck Farm), and #15 are gone. Richard said #6 on McMenemy is still there - the church was built in front of it - but mentioned that some houses on McMenemy probably should also be on the map, but are not, and need to be checked on as well as a farm that was on Downs, between Adolphus and Jackson. Ron pointed out that the house at 2492 Highwood (#52), which is already on the list, has a barn that appears to be old enough to be included and the owners should be contacted for more information. After additional discussion, it was decided that determination criteria could be discussed at the next meeting. Dave pointed out that care must be taken in developing the criteria, as the ordinance will have long-term effects on the residents. b. Proposed Historical Preservation Ordinance Amendment Dave said he had finally been able to talk to Mike Koop who suggested changing "Historical" to "Heritage" as the State Society is trying to be promote consistency among all commissions for Certified Local Government status. No objections were heard. Mr. Koop also said the following terms used in the Section 2-93 (c) of the proposed ordinance: (1) New construction (2) Move a building (3) Excavation (4) Demolition; need to be defined in more detail. Discussion followed and reached a consensus Ron said he would prefer go for following the spirit and intent of the ordinance rather than strict adherence to allow for what the property owner might be able to do, relative to the availability of materials or what might or might not work in a particular instance. Bob said he felt a fifth term, Remodel, should be added to the group. Dave will make the change and insert a definition as needed. In Section 2-90 (b) discussion reached consensus for the indicated change in the following sentence: If available, one member of the Commission must be a designated representative of the Ramsey County Historical Society, Sf and the City will pay for a membership for the Commission Chairperson. Commission membership. Richard raised the issue of whether the Commissioners would be able to interview applicants and make a recommendation to the Council regarding appointments. After discussion it was agreed the Council would interview and appoint new commissioners. c. Time Capsule Richard moved to delav this item until Caleb's arrival. Aves - all. 7. NEW BUSINESS a. Centurv Trails Apartments - Common Bond Communities Dave displayed the picture of the 40-unit apartment building on the Priory property, and asked if the commissioners had any comments because the Priory is a historical site. Richard said he believed that in previous discussions the Commission asked that the new buildings be consistent in style to the original Priory building, but in looking at the past minutes, he said he had only found his request for some type of historical signage. Ron responded that he remembered some discussions about the appearance, and felt that because the new Monastary construction incorporated some features and materials from the original one he thought as much had been done as could be and they do kind of match up. Dave mentioned that he felt the Design Review Board may have some architectural comment about it, and asked if there was anything he needed to take back to Tom Ekstrand. Richard again mentioned the signage, Dave asked where it should be, and Pete suggested by the Peace Pole. Approval of the proposal was moved. seconded. Vote - Aves - all. 8. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS - None 9. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS Lu said she has received nothing new from the Ramsey County Historical Society. Richard brought up, as a matter of interest, an item from a 1972 copy of the Parkside neighborhood newsletter stating that Ramsey County had purchased, subject to a Life Estate, the 8-acre Luben Nursery property on Arcade, near Roselawn and Hy. 61 to be used as an arboretum and they would begin planting the 35 species of trees immediately. To date, nothing has been done on the site except there is a spot for a campfire. Richard also brought up, as information, the fact that although the Historical Society has obtained written permission from 2 locations for off-site parking during events, the Planning Commission has decided that events at the Bruentrup Heritage Farm must be limited to on-site parking. He said since the City owns the property he feels the City should increase parking with a parking ramp, using the same footprint to avoid using any more open space. Lu said she thought that was something the Historical Society should be working on, not the Commission. a. Maplewood Historical Societv Update Richard reported that Johnny Appleseed Day is Saturday, August 15, from 11 :00 - 3:00. Lois mentioned that there was a Board Meeting on Wednesday but its only purpose was to discuss the request for Charitable Gambling Funds. Dave said the work on the barn is nearing completion and that the State has paid out 80% of the grant money. He is working with Bill, George and Sandy Dicke to get all the paperwork finished and the balance of the Grant will be paid when all the work is completed. Dave also reported that the Resolution of Support for the Maplewood Area Historical Society and the 10th anniversary of saving the farm will be on the Agenda for the next City Council meeting, July 27th. Lois mentioned that the barn painting is nearly done, and looks great. Ron said he was at the Farm and learned from the man who is the painting the barn and the process and paint being used is historically authentic; there is a family north of Hugo who makes it in individual batches, using five different authentic oils and ground stone and gets the desired color. The man who is painting also painted the barn about 35 years ago, when it was at its' original site at White Bear and Lydia. Ron has asked for the formula for the paint and some information about the family. 6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued) c. Time Capsule (This item was delayed until Caleb arrived.) Ron asked if anyone had any changes or additions to the proclamation. The changes agreed on are shown as deletions struck out and additions underlined. OFFICIAL PROCLAMATION Whereas: The City of Maplewood, having been incorporated in 1957, and having been originally founded as New Canada and McLean Township~ in 1858; Whereas: The City of Maplewood, having significant historical assets, including the Bruentrup Heritaae Farm, the Ramsey County Poor Farm, the Roselawn Forest Lawn Cemetery Mausoleum, numerous artifacts, sites of archeological interest, open spaces, and documented personal historical accounts; Whereas: The Historical Preservation Commission, with the assistance of Maplewood City staff and volunteers, businesses, citizens, and the Maplewood Area Historical Society, having gathered documents, brochures, personal historical accounts, and a vast amount of items, that strongly provide a glimpse into our Gities Citv's past and the present; Whereas: The Time Capsule will be opened in 2057. our Citv's 100th Anniversarv: Whereas: The Time Capsule being complete, and ready for sealing; Now, therefore, be it known: That the Maplewood City Council officially recognizes the sealing of the time capsule, on this day, Monday, August 24, 2009. Signed Diana Longrie, Mayor City of Maplewood, Minnesota 10. STAFF PRESENTATION - None 11. ADJOURNMENT - 8:35 P.M.